MN Mazda Dyno Day - Saturday May 17th - at MAP

[AJ]

We are pleased to announce that we have scheduled our our next MN Mazda Dyno Day at MAP! $50 for 3 pulls is the price. 2WD Dyno.

The events will be held on Saturday May 17th. Projected start time is 11am.

We'll have more detils up in the following days, but clear your schedule, we've given everyone plenty of time!

Sorry for the AWD car this time around. There are two of us in the planning that are ok with sitting out and just enjoying the day. We wanted a dyno day and we wanted to step up our involvement and partnership with MAP.

You can sign up in this thread by simply posting the following:

-Your Full Real Name
-Car Year, Make, Model
-Breif mod list with tuning device

Mazdas will enjoy priority on the dyno, but all cars are welcome!

Sign Up List:
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Jay Hennes
2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
Intake and 3" catless TBE. Tuning device: my right foot.

Jesse Fields
07 MS3
CPE CAI, AWR rear mount


Mike Ophoven
2004 Dodge SRT-4
Intake, BOV, Exhaust


Tony Pan
2003 MS Protege
SS AFC V1, Short Ram Intake, 626 IM, 3" J Pipe Back
*For extra would they be willing to tune as well? I'm guessing there's no time, but incase. (maybe last to go?)


Patrick Campbell
2001 Audi TT
Giac X+ chip, VTDA Intake, Forge007 DV, Samco TIP


Cory Nygaard
2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
FMIC, 3" TB exhaust, SRI, Greddy profec EBC, split second FTC EMS, 626 intake manifold (hopefully in by then lol), awr mounts

Jon Davis
2008 Mazdaspeed3
Mazdaspeed CAI, TurboXS DP and MP, TurboXS HBOV, no tuning software.

Kyle K
2003 MSP
No tuning needed, but I need my A/F ratios tested

Mike Krivak
2004 Mustang Cobra
Dont need a tune

[dmention7]

I'm in

Jay Hennes
2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
Intake and catless exhaust. Tuning device: my right foot.

[spek1098]

Awsome, right in time for my half breed to be ready for a dyno (at least I hope it is)...

Jurgen Hagedorn
2005/2007 Mazdaspeed SP23
Cobb AP, DP, FMIC, & SFI

Buddy sold his srt4

[Jesse MS3GT]

Fuck I need another baseline so what the hell...

Jesse Fields
07 MS3
CPE CAI, AWR rear mount

Mike Ophoven
2004 Dodge SRT-4
Intake, BOV, Exhaust

[AJ]

If a buddy of mine wants to bring his srt-4 for some pulls would that be alright?

yup, just add his info to your post.

[dmention7]

Monday Bump! :D

I know we can wrangle up more than 3 mazdas.

[mndsm]

I want to, but I can't guarantee I can get the cash together. I definately want the Mini on the dyno though, I want it to pwn Jay's car. Put me down for the Mini for right now, and maybe the Speed gets added later.

[dmention7]

ORLY? I might just have to funnel some wheelz monies into mods to make sure that doesn't happen.

[mndsm]

Don't tempt me to have a pulley on the Mini before then......

[dmention7]

Consider yourself tempted.

[Young Roids]

I am very interested. When I first read the thread I thought it was march 17 but May? Wow, long way off. I will probly show up for this one I have been wondering what my stock power is since it seems low for some reason.

[mndsm]

Have you dynoe'd before? You're a Speed3 right? Dead stock on LSE's dyno, I only got 213 on my best run. I figure that to be about right.

[Young Roids]

Ya, MS3 bone stock. Was that a mustang? 213 is what I have seen stock guys get on mustangs.

[JustROLLIN]

LSE had a Dyno-Dynamics dyno. They tend to read lower than Mustang and DynoJets.

[Young Roids]

Well I did some WOT runs today since it was about 50 out(supposedly the MS3s sweet spot temp) and it feels stronger in 2nd than 3rd. Now most ms3 owners say that third gear is where they really feel the power so I am wondering if something is up with mine.

[mndsm]

I think that comes a lot from the feel. 2nd is a wicked gear for sure, because you get a lot more torque steer and wheelhop/spin. I know it feels like that to me, but 3rd is the murdering gear on local roads, and 4th on the highway.

[Jesse MS3GT]

IIRC first sucks sinces its too short, same with second, thirds pretty fun but doesnt accelerate as hard. IIRC I had more whp than Jeff and Tom, but Jeff had more wtq. My numbers were 221/257 with an intake

[mndsm]

You did have more than me. Jeff topped at 220whp on the Mazdaspeed intake and a race pipe. His torque numbers were slightly higher than yours as I remember as well.

[Jesse MS3GT]

^ I believe he had 10 more wtq. Probably thanks to the race/mid pipe

[AJ]

Bump, we have 5 cars, let's get a bunch more!

[holmstar]

I'd be in... but in this case AWD = FAIL.

[AJ]

Also, anyone want to post this on the RX8 sites or national boards in case any WI or IA or ND guys want to make the trip? Lets spread the word and get MAP a crowd of Mazdas to deal with.

[dmention7]

I'll post it up on mazda3forums.com and mazdas247.com

[LASERBLUE135]

if my Unichip is installed by then (which it will be in a week or so), and if I haven't had it dyno'd allready I'll be there for it.

[Jesse MS3GT]

Im going to have 3 parts that need to be installed before this dyno even happens, but I gotta wait for a baseline w/o them first. UGH lol

[AJ]

Anyone want to post this on MNSC?

[BlueWolfCry]

I would like to, but I get off of work at 4PM. What time do you guys think it will go to? If there is time for me I'm in.

Tony Pan
2003 MS Protege

SS AFC V1
Short Ram Intake
626 IM
3" J Pipe Back

For extra would they be willing to tune as well? I'm guessing there's no time, but incase

[AJ]

They might be able to chime in on this, as we could have you as the last of the day and you could work out after event tuning at that time.

[BlueWolfCry]

They might be able to chime in on this, as we could have you as the last of the day and you could work out after event tuning at that time.

Cool, as long as they have time to do 3 dyno runs I'm happy!

[Young Roids]

It's been confirmed that there are Mazda employees on the various forums so maybe it's not the best idea to post your real name and mods list. I don't know if dynoing your car is against the warranty rules or not but I could see them saying something. They might not be on this forum yet but they have been on 24/7 for sure.

[AJ]

The Service Manage at Brookdale is well aware my car hasd seen the dyno, it does NOT void a warranty. I think that thisis actually in the fine print in the contract.

[Young Roids]

That's good to know. But still you might not want to post your real name next to your list of mods.

[dmention7]

Good point about mods.....

but yeah, if a dyno voided your warranty, then so would 95% of test drives lol

[spek1098]

Don't think my warrenty will be vallid much longer, so I guess I'm safe...

[mazdamn02]

It's been confirmed that there are Mazda employees on the various forums so maybe it's not the best idea to post your real name and mods list. I don't know if dynoing your car is against the warranty rules or not but I could see them saying something. They might not be on this forum yet but they have been on 24/7 for sure.

My name is Josh and I run my speed 3 on JP5 jet fuel and put a flux capacitor in my car. :)

[Young Roids]

I know it doesn't make sense how they can assume that your statements are true... But they will go ahead and void it anyway it has happened. I am just telling you to be smart about things on forums.

[Jesse MS3GT]

^ You have GOT to be a conspiracy theorist. You are, admit it! lol

I agree with you though, but I doubt a dealer would void me because of an intake and the fact I replaced their shitty stock mount that was causing my drivetrain to flop around.

[Young Roids]

I get all my conspiracy theories from your forum! I read the thread that Darksun posted and figured I would pass along the warning.

[AJ]

I've talked to MAP and if there are a couple cars that want to work out actualy tuning with them, they would be interested, vs opening it up to more non mazdas. Pricing and timing would have to be worked out with them, but I think 2, maybe 3 cars could get in on that action.

[Zelpdsm]

Is this still open for non mazdas? If so...

Patrick Campbell
2001 Audi TT

Giac X+ chip
VTDA Intake
Forge007 DV
Samco TIP

[Big Nate]

This is open to everyone who would care to come.

[spek1098]

Yea, tuning would be good, but anyone have any tuning to actually do without the AP? I mean those with a Speed 3 or 6. Hope its out by then, or I will just be a spek-tator.

[mndsm]

You could dyno the Grand Am!

[Big Nate]

If the Denali wasn't AWD I would put that thing up there.

[mndsm]

That'd be hot.

[1fastmsp]

I'm not 100% sure at this time if i'll be able to make it out but just incase i can here is my info....

-Cory Nygaard
-2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
-FMIC, 3" TB exhaust, SRI, Greddy profec EBC, split second FTC EMS, 626 intake manifold (hopefully in by then lol), awr mounts

[AJ]

Awesome, the more the better!

Bump for weekend visual!

[dmention7]

I can't wait!

[speed_addict]

I will stop out :) I have never been to MAP and it would be fun to see what some of ya'll make.

[Jesse MS3GT]

^ Most of us probably wont come close to you

[Big Nate]

what do you mean. Her car can't even be dynoed at map.

[mndsm]

But it WAS dynoed at DB, and it made big power on that dyno.

[Jesse MS3GT]

^ Thank you

[ZoomZoom Diva]

My Contour meet is that weekend... and Spring Zing is something I refuse to miss.

[AJ]

Spring Zing? gol, sorry I had to giggle out loud.

[mazdamn02]

Unless we get a hurricane I'll be out of town that weekend.

[Jana]

I will be there for a bit, but not dynoing the car. :)

[mazdamn02]

I will be there for a bit, but not dynoing the car. :)

You gotta get a baseline before you put in your hi-boost turbo kit though!

[Jana]

You gotta get a baseline before you put in your hi-boost turbo kit though!

I don't think my "mods" include that. ;) Been there, done it, want a car to drive & enjoy. :D

[AJ]

BUMPSIDY!!!

7 cars in the *UPDATED the first post*, lets pop a few more in there. Let's at least have 10 FOR SURE for MAP.

[MoFoo]

Just a quick question. In terms of mileage, what would you guys recommend for a baseline? My 08 Speed3 has 800 miles right now.

[AJ]

good to go.

[JustROLLIN]

Yeah, I think they say 500-1k for a break in. You are already past the 500 mark and will pass the 1k mark before the dyno day.

[dmention7]

Plus, 3 runs to redline is not going to mess up the break-in, no matter what your break-in philosophy is.

[Matt D.]

Can we put my front wheels on the rollers and just put jack stands under the rear? It's a Mitsubishi, it's fond of jack stands.

[mndsm]

Mistubishi on jackstands? That's heresy!

[JustROLLIN]

Bump for this event. Its coming up pretty quick here. Who else wants to dyno??

[dirtyd]

-Jon Davis
-2008 Mazdaspeed3
-Mazdaspeed CAI, TurboXS DP and MP, TurboXS HBOV, no tuning software.

What time should I get there?

[LASERBLUE135]

What time should I get there?

I'm there

Kyle K
2003 MSP, no tuning needed, but I need my A/F ratios tested

[AJ]

Awesome, i'll add you two to the list tonight. I would suggest showing up as close to the start time as possbile. We iwll just line cars up and then everyong else can hang out and hassle the MAP crew!

[dirtyd]

Awesome, i'll add you two to the list tonight. I would suggest showing up as close to the start time as possbile. We iwll just line cars up and then everyong else can hang out and hassle the MAP crew!

OH GOD! This is going to be great! Prepare for massive smoke inhalation! HAHAHAHAHA! My car is going to fill the entire garage! I hope they have decent ventillation!

Smoka Spy!

[dmention7]

Unless I somehow fall across some fuel tuning in the next 2 weeks, my car is going to make the place reek of unburnt gas.... lol

[mndsm]

I'm going to be there, though there will be no car on the dyno.... though, the Mini... it IS tempting.

[dmention7]

I'm going to need to make sure I get a tank of 93... filled up with 91 last night at SA and the car feels like poo.

[dirtyd]

Forgot to ask...but is the projected start time still 11:00am?

[Jesse MS3GT]

I think so!

[JustROLLIN]

Forgot to ask...but is the projected start time still 11:00am?

Yes. We will definitely post any changes in start time. But, for now assume the start time is 11am.

[dirtyd]

Yes. We will definitely post any changes in start time. But, for now assume the start time is 11am.

Nice! Thanks!

[AJ]

BUMPITTY BUMP BUMP!

[mikey84]

ill be there but no dyno

[dmention7]

I'll be on the rollers

[deegee]

I will be there as well, hopefully snapping unas fotos

[Zelpdsm]

I'll definitely be there. How late is this going to go? There are school bus races @ CLR Sat night.

[dmention7]

Does anyone have a video camera they could bring? It would be fun to have some vids of all the cars doing their pulls.

[LASERBLUE135]

I'm there

Kyle K
2003 MSP, no tuning needed, but I need my A/F ratios tested

BUMP, I need to be added to the list!

And I will bring a camera. I took vids of the last dyno day here...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yI9ZLc8cNZE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k4W81u2Suio

[JustROLLIN]

Yeah, I will have my digi cam and I can take quite a bit of video with my cell phone. Its low quality, but video in case others dont have a cam.

[Jesse MS3GT]

BUMP, I need to be added to the list!

And I will bring a camera. I took vids of the last dyno day here...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yI9ZLc8cNZE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k4W81u2Suio

I believe that was my car, totally forgot about that video!

[spek1098]

Sorry, have to back out. If I'm lucky my car will become engineless on Saturday, although I might stop by to check things out.

My place isn't far from MAP, just west on 394, right by Wendy's there. If any one wants to, your welcome to stop by afterwards and throw some wrenches around, or to just stand around and take snipes at my f-ups, I'm guessing I've earned a little wrath from a few of you.

[JustROLLIN]

I'll definitely be there. How late is this going to go? There are school bus races @ CLR Sat night.

From the looks of it, it should not be a very long day. We dont have too many people going on the rollers. I am thinking we will be out of there by like 3-4pm at the latest...

[OBIWAN]

Can I come and hang out and watch if I've been MIA for nearly a year (too many reasons to list here for the MIA)? :-/

It'd be great to meet some folks AND to have some sympathetic ears to complain to about all the FUN I've been having with a bent rim, old + new tires, wheel offsets, bent plastic in my stupid wheelwells ($86 just to replace one piece of stuff that's thinner than tupperware!), and getting on the s**t list of a local Discount Tire.

Plus I can get some tips on where to go if I want to tweak anything on my slushbox automatic Mazda 3 GT....

Whaddaya think? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

OBIWAN
(aka Sue)

[mndsm]

Bring it on, we'd love to have you. I'll be there myself w/ a box of tools and a pair of jackstands to assist with the fender rolling portion, though I don't believe the Mini will see the rollers this time out.

[dmention7]

Absolutely come hang out!

[OBIWAN]

Where's the dyno place located? I haven't looked through all the pages of this post, and I'm sure it's in here somewhere...

Is anyone else with a Mazda 3 going to be there? I've got my old rims that I'd like to sell (got a new one to replace the bent one) and I can show it to anybody that's interested. They're 17x7 aftermarket rims and are only 15.5 lbs each, so they'd be great for anybody that's auto X-ing or going to the track with their Mazda 3.

Or would that be outta line to bring one of those with me?

Ya'll will get to see the new rims + tires too (yes girls can get excited about wheels and tires! :) ).

The new wheels are OZ's and are sweeeeet -- but they weigh a TON (28 lbs each - oy veh!).

[dmention7]

http://www.maperformance.com/store/help.php?section=about

28lbs/wheel!?!?! wow, what are they, solid steel?

[OBIWAN]

Here's a ginormously long link to them:

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=W01726204BS&wheelMake=O.Z.&wheelModel=Michelangelo+10&wheelFinish=Bright+Silver+Paint&showRear=no&autoMake=Mazda&autoModel=MAZDA3+s+4-Door&autoYear=2007&autoModClar=&filterSize=All&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand

[Slim]

Nice. They look like Speed 3 wheels a little.

I'm pondering attending this and getting a baseline...

[Workdawg]

Still got the stock mazda3 wheels? I wouldn't mind having a set of them for winter wheels. :)

[OBIWAN]

Crud-the first cut and paste of the link didn't work. I'll try it again:

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSea
rch&initialPartNumber=W01726204BS&wheelMake=O.Z.&wheelModel=Michelangelo+10&wheelFinish=Bright+Silver+Paint&showRear=no&autoMake=Mazda&autoModel=MAZDA3+s+4-Door&autoYear=2007&autoModClar=&filterSize=All&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand

[OBIWAN]

I still have my stock 3 rims from my former 2004 3s 5-door and they're my winter wheels (Dunlop makes a great low-profile winter tire!).

[dmention7]

Nice. They look like Speed 3 wheels a little.

I'm pondering attending this and getting a baseline...



DOOOO IIIIIIIT!!!

[dirtyd]

I dont see my name on the first page...but I will still be there at 11am. Is it okay if I'm throwing a CEL? Will they still let me dyno? Or should I just disconnect negative terminal right before I hop on the rollers?

I've got a friend with a 2002 Toyota Rav 4, this baby puts some massive power to the wheels let me tell you! I should convince him to do a couple pulls! HAHAHA! Its got a couple Avery and DU stickers on it...they should atleast add about 20whp each...right?

[AJ]

We need to update the first page, and I will, but we will have plenty of time to get anyone and everyone on. Stopped by tonight to confirm with the MAP crew, they are looking forward to us hitting the dyno up as well.

[JustROLLIN]

Nice! It sounds like the weather is going to cooperate as well. Its suppose to be 65-70 and partly cloudy. So, if the fender rolling people want to work on their rides, it should not be an issue.

[mndsm]

We'll be ready with fun and games for all! Joe, you should find some cheap scooters.

[Zelpdsm]

A few weeks ago I tried turning the boost up and my car fell flat on it's face at 18psi. Switched to colder plugs, tightened the gap, and now it can hold 21psi. Dyno here I come!

[mndsm]

What are you running again? Sounds like you might throw down a decent number.

[Zelpdsm]

01 TTQR. Chip and intake are the only relevant mods other than increased boost. The tittie is no DSM though. I'm thinking I will put down somewhere in the neighborhood of 215-225 to the wheels.

[mndsm]

TTQR as in Quattro? I hope you can disconnect that stuff, because MAP does not have an AWD dyno.

[Zelpdsm]

Just need to pull a fuse. It's an electronically controlled clutch pack that sends power to the rears.

[mndsm]

Werd. Can't wait to see it then.

[Workdawg]

I suppose then if you only send power to the front you'll get higher numbers than it actually puts down to all four.

[mndsm]

Less driveline loss. Figure an extra 5-10% loss with a transfer case. Engine still makes the same amt of power though.

[LASERBLUE135]

yeah a TT on the rollers is going to be sweet, not many modded of those around which is a shame because it's a great platform.

[04cobra]

Is it too late to get my car in there? I would like my cobra tested actually. I need my timing and a/f ratios tested.

Mike Krivak
2004 Mustang Cobra
Dont need a tune

[mndsm]

Bring it on! We hope to see you there.

[JustROLLIN]

I have gone ahead and updated the first page. We are going to try and get everything rolling (no pun intended) about 11am. If anyone wants to make a late entry, either let us know or just show up.

If you have any questions or are running late, feel free to give me a ring.

[JustROLLIN]

Just want to say thanks to MAP and all the members who showed up to kick off the summer with a great day. The weather cooperated for the most part and we had a great assorment of vehicles lay down some numbers on the rollers. I had a blast and a special thanks to Tom for the incredible trophy he made for members to hand down at events in the future. I know there were lots of you with pics and video so lets make sure we get that stuff posted up for everyone to enjoy. Thanks again to all those who participated!!

[Young Roids]

Who had the highest hp for a mazda? And what did the audi put up?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2420/2502224609_0e59b29615_o.jpg

I am sortof concerned about the low torque but it seems like Jesse had low torque as well. Strange.

[Jesse MS3GT]

I have a hiccup at 4-4.5k rpm. I didnt have that hiccup/hesitation last year on lse's dyno(same mod - intake). And the reflash obviously didnt fix the hesitation. I think I need to go in for my cdfp solenoid now, too.

Looks like I make a few more hp than your stock speed3 jay! I make less torque, though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/slowasscivic/dynoMAP.jpg

[dmention7]

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2370/jayhennesdyno51708bt0.png

I just need to figure out what's going on between 3.5-4k that causes my torque to plummet and the AFRs to lean out like that. Lookit how absolutely pig-rich she runs from 4k to redline! lol

[Young Roids]

That hiccup looks like it's only in two of the runs. One of them is pretty smooth.

[ij1889]

damn i wish i could have done it, lol i can imagine my hp like at 9o and the revs going of the page to 8k rpm

[Young Roids]

damn i wish i could have done it, lol i can imagine my hp like at 9o and the revs going of the page to 8k rpm

Yea mikey was there I was trying to get him to run his rx-7

[Jesse MS3GT]

That hiccup looks like it's only in two of the runs. One of them is pretty smooth.

Yeah I noticed that. Thats the thing, my car doesnt hesitate all the time. But it does often enough. Mike @ luther mentioned a Speed3 that had carboned up plugs that was causing a misfire so I wonder if that could be my problem as well.

[Young Roids]

Pull the plugs and chek em out?

[JustROLLIN]

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2370/jayhennesdyno51708bt0.png

I just need to figure out what's going on between 3.5-4k that causes my torque to plummet and the AFRs to lean out like that. Lookit how absolutely pig-rich she runs from 4k to redline! lol

Yeah, it goes slightly lean as the boost comes on, then goes pig rich. But, its nice because you can pull some extra ponies out of it with a piggy back and some tuning.

[LASERBLUE135]

here are the dyno's, note the perfect a/f ratios:
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/dyno%205.17.08%20unichipinjencorksport.jpg

here is the dyno with my original stock dyno graph plotted over it:
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/dyno%20vs%20stock.jpg

I talked to Unichip expert JDMsam and he says a tune will get the dip fixed. So I guess its a FMIC and then a trip to chicago for tuning are my next mods.

He also says that a single runner manifold might not work out well with a Unichip (for future msp unichip owners).

[LASERBLUE135]

pics and videos will be up soon...

I got my dyno 174 hp 195 tq
dirtyd MS3 (cai, catless) 257 hp 283 tq
the audi TT (CAI, chip, running quite lean too) 250 hp 235 tq
mustang svt cobra 477 hp!!! and 445 tq
and demention7's dyno run

[deegee]

Thanks again MAP for hosting the Dyno Day! Sorry we had to cut out early for grub. Nice to see everyone again.

Some Pics:

http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1500_resize_web.jpg


http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1501_resize_web.jpg


http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1503_resize_web.jpg


http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1505_resize_web.jpg


http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1508_resize_web.jpg


For you AJ
http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1509_resize_web.jpg


http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1514_resize_web.jpg


http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1529_resize_web.jpg


http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1544_resize_web.jpg

Full gallery will be up later....

:what: :happydance:

[AJ]

For you AJ
http://www.techmologies.com/mnmazda/dyno_day_05_17_08/images/IMG_1509_resize_web.jpg






That looks sick! Jana is stoked you got her car in as well, she wasn't sure if she was there when you where taking pics.

Got skillz man! It was good to meet you as well!

[niterydr]

Nice pictures, looked like a fun event!

[mndsm]

Just want to say thanks to MAP and all the members who showed up to kick off the summer with a great day. The weather cooperated for the most part and we had a great assorment of vehicles lay down some numbers on the rollers. I had a blast and a special thanks to Tom for the incredible trophy he made for members to hand down at events in the future. I know there were lots of you with pics and video so lets make sure we get that stuff posted up for everyone to enjoy. Thanks again to all those who participated!!

I can't take full credit for that one. Jay helped a ton with the painting, and with the fabricating of that awesome base. But thanks for the ups, i'm sure that we'll find a good use for that thing soon enough.

As an interesting aside, Jay and I went to the Mini meet right after that, and Jay's car got a lot of positive looks, as well as when we pulled out the trophy for everyone to see. It was most amusing.

[dirtyd]

Here is my graph. Mods are listed below in my sig.

http://www.techmologies.com/dave/dave_dyno_05_17_08.jpg

[Zelpdsm]

When did they send you your graphs? I didn't get mine.

[dmention7]

The forms we filled out asked for an email address--that's where they sent the graphs to. I think they sent them all out that day.

[AJ]

Did anyone know the guys on the bikes who made a nice showing by tossing rocks and shit everywhere while showing off? Cause if my car would of been hit, which they were not far off from, I would of flipped my lid. I was pretty irate anyway and it was probably a good thing I was leaving.

[Workdawg]

I think the general consensus that day was that none of us knew them. They were probably the friends of someone from MAP.

[dmention7]

Yeah, whoever they were, that was pretty lame.

[mndsm]

Wheelie=cool, shooting rocks at my car=not cool. That is all.

[Zelpdsm]

Matching bikes and outfits = fail

[AJ]

Yeah, I thought for a second it was a poor display of some scene in Road Warrior.

[Zelpdsm]

Got the graph

[Young Roids]

Did anyone know the guys on the bikes who made a nice showing by tossing rocks and shit everywhere while showing off? Cause if my car would of been hit, which they were not far off from, I would of flipped my lid. I was pretty irate anyway and it was probably a good thing I was leaving.

One of them looked like this kid I used to know. I was staring him down because we aren't exactly friends. But I am not sure if it was him or not really. If I knew it was the guy I would beat his ass.

[dmention7]

Heh... I have to admit I was glancing around for the nearest torque wrench because it looked like the little guy was wandering over to start something.

[Young Roids]

Yea, the little one was the one I think I may have known.

[Workdawg]

He'd have to be a complete tool to start something with all of us around. After the display of idiocy I would have had no problem getting in on an ass kicking.

[JustROLLIN]

Alright, calm down with all the Rambo mentality. It was dumb, we get it. :)

[dmention7]

:ammo:

[JustROLLIN]

LOL.

[04cobra]

I dont think my car was loud enough on the dyno

[mndsm]

Out of curiosity, what is the mod list on that Cobra? That was a solid number.

[dmention7]

I dinno man, I'm pretty sure there were people 1/4 mile away diving for their basements because they mistook the s/c for a tornado siren... hehe

That being said, there's always the argument of "moar because moar"

[mndsm]

Well, yeah, that's a given.

[Picklz]

That cobra is sick, supercharger whine FTW! Keep in mind you were in an enclosed area w/ the hood open, but even on the streets there's no mistaking that sound, love it!

[JustROLLIN]

Out of curiosity, what is the mod list on that Cobra? That was a solid number.

He had a ported S/C, Intake, Cat-back Exh, and maybe something else I am forgetting. Regardless, very few mods put into it.

[mndsm]

I hate v8's. They can make giant power on NOTHING.

[Workdawg]

They can also burn a lot of fuel.

[JustROLLIN]

Oh, and he also had a smaller pulley with the ported S/C. But, basically nothing....

[mndsm]

Yeah, makes me think the Mini needs a port to go with the eventual underdrive pulley.... Taya's going to kill me :)

[Young Roids]

I dont think my car was loud enough on the dyno

YEa I think it was a decibel or two short of a real tornado siren.

[Picklz]

I thought he had injectors also, but in any event it's not hard to make gobs of power w/ a supercharged V8.

Add headers, a cam, possibly a plate intercooler, smaller pully, and perhaps some race gas and your talking 500-600whp.

[JustROLLIN]

I thought he had injectors also, but in any event it's not hard to make gobs of power w/ a supercharged V8.

Add headers, a cam, possibly a plate intercooler, smaller pully, and perhaps some race gas and your talking 500-600whp.

Yeah, I am sure he can clarify exactly what he has. I am just shooting from the hip.

[Zelpdsm]

You car sounded AMAZING. I have never heard anything quite like it.

[LASERBLUE135]

videos and pics are up
mustang rear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfUhk_WhGyU
mustang front
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzjS_PPFNNk

my msp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M6gF688rCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbumYYRQ_-o

demention7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsVu5grxiFM
love that turkey gobble!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Gx9fI0Nfg

dirtyd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYvfwUIYotQ

Audi TT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31vUf5miFr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wnB0WLE588
dyno computer with ms3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBgC5HiLSl0

[LASERBLUE135]

http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/clean%20exhaust.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/cfms6.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/fender%20roll.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/ms3's.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/tt%20dyno%20spin.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/v12.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/dyno%20wheel%20kyle.jpg

[dirtyd]

[QUOTE=LASERBLUE135;30019]http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/clean%20exhaust.jpg

LOL! Is that my exhaust?!?!? Yeah, it has always looked like that. It looked like that when the car was completely stock...it didn't make a difference that I added the TBE and it now smokes. It is all carbon buildup because the ms3 runs so friggen rich. Hopefully we will see some good tuning possibilities out there to minimize the richness. And a dealer that will replace a shitty turbo under warranty.

[cosmicspd3]

nice vids!! yeah my exhaust looks like that stock too... :/

[04cobra]

My mods:

Ported Blower
Smaller upper supercharger pulley
Cat-Back Exhaust
60lb injectors
And just an unshrouded intake

My numbers were low too i had previously made 494 hp and 471 TQ. But i dropped to 475HP and 440TQ...but i was also super lean at MAP dyno....so im taking back to my tuner to figure it out.

All in all it cost about $1,500 to gain 100hp

[mndsm]

Damn 1500$ to gain 100hp... I only wish.

[2BAR4WS]

It is all carbon buildup because the ms3 runs so friggen rich.
Mazda has done that for years now. Smart though, as it helps keep them from having to do engine warranty work;) My 89 is the same way. Under full boost it dips down as low as 9.9:1 on the stock fuel maps:eek:

[2BAR4WS]

Here is my graph. Mods are listed below in my sig.

http://www.techmologies.com/dave/dave_dyno_05_17_08.jpg


I'm not huge into the MS3's, but isn't that graph a little on the low side for your mods? Just curious, as we had a stock 07 MS3 on the MAP dyno last year that put down 260whp with just the MS CAI...

[Young Roids]

Mazda has done that for years now. Smart though, as it helps keep them from having to do engine warranty work;) My 89 is the same way. Under full boost it dips down as low as 9.9:1 on the stock fuel maps:eek:

Wich is why I am amazed that these tuners like Cobb can't make power with the MS3s. You would think they could just lean it out and get huge power.

[Jesse MS3GT]

I'm not huge into the MS3's, but isn't that graph a little on the low side for your mods? Just curious, as we had a stock 07 MS3 on the MAP dyno last year that put down 260whp with just the MS CAI...

I think its the dyno. Cuz Young Roids stock MS3 put down 247whp 255wtq, I had a worn rear mount and a CAI and put down 255whp/251wtq.

Unless all three of us somehow had the same "low number" problem

[dirtyd]

I'm not huge into the MS3's, but isn't that graph a little on the low side for your mods? Just curious, as we had a stock 07 MS3 on the MAP dyno last year that put down 260whp with just the MS CAI...

I believe someone was telling me that bone stock, on that dyno, people were getting 225whp and 255 wtq. My mods are not that extensive, and I'm still running stock boost, give or take 1 PSI. The car is not tuned, and I'm going to continue to run it as is until P&L can figure out the MS3 computer. Then its hop in the car, drive to Chicago, and get it tuned. Judging by Deegee's numbers with his protune (for an STi), I should be waaayyy higher. Besides...stock MS3s cant smoke like mine...

[04cobra]

So i got the cobra fixed...its now running perfect with a 11.5 a/f and it made 485 rwhp and 460TQ...

I was going to get teh Cobb AP for the MS3, but with the recent dyno result of the AP it looks like I am going to be spending that $700 on a lower pulley and a mid-pipe for the cobra which will bring me to 500/500 !

[mndsm]

Yeah, i'd probably do the same thing given the choice.

[dirtyd]

here are the dyno's, note the perfect a/f ratios:
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/dyno%205.17.08%20unichipinjencorksport.jpg

here is the dyno with my original stock dyno graph plotted over it:
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/dyno%20vs%20stock.jpg

I talked to Unichip expert JDMsam and he says a tune will get the dip fixed. So I guess its a FMIC and then a trip to chicago for tuning are my next mods.

He also says that a single runner manifold might not work out well with a Unichip (for future msp unichip owners).

Are you positive that it needs a tune? I went with Deegee to get his STi tuned down in Chicago...and the graph started to dip a little bit when his clutch was starting to go. You might want to have that looked at? Might save you a trip to Chicago and paying for a tune...