MN Mazda Dyno Day!!

[JustROLLIN]

Our first official meet/dyno day for the year is ready for entrants.

When: May 26th - 11am Until All Cars Have Made Their Pulls
Where: LSE Performance (http://www.lseperformance.com)
What: Dyno Test Vehicles, BBQ, and One Hell of a Good Time!
Who: Primarily Any/All Members of MNmazda.com - Others are welcome!
Why: So We Can See What Kind of Numbers Our Cars Lay Down and Meet/Hang With Other Members of the Site.

Yes, LSE Performance has been kind enough to host the 1st official MNmazda.com Dyno Day. The cost will be $60 for 3 pulls on their state of the art Dyno. LSE is setup to handle FWD, RWD, and AWD vehicles up to 1,000+ HP. So, all of us should have no issues laying down some accurate baseline pulls on their equipment. The MNmazda.com staff has also decided to do some grilling and we will be selling hot dogs and soda for those who are interested.

If you have interest in finding out what kinda power your car will lay down, please respond in this thread and we will gladly add you to the list.

Please feel free to join the site.

:partytime2:

The List

1) Jesse Mazda6s (Jesse) - 07 Mazdaspeed 3
2) mndsm (Tom) - 05 Mini Cooper S
3) Speed6 Guy (Nate) - 06 Mazdaspeed 6
4) Shady240sx (John) - 07 Mazdaspeed 3
5) Speed Addict (Ashlee) - 03 Mazdaspeed Protege
6) Mazdamn02 (Josh) - 07 Mazdaspeed3
7) mndsm (Tom) - 07 Mazdaspeed 3
8) rotarywanderer (???) - ?????????
9) RoadRageMotors (Matt) - Mazdaspeed 6
10) Dmention7 (Jay) - 03.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
11) Aviateur (Jeff) - 07 Mazdaspeed 3
12) Dan (?) - VW GTi
13) Brandon (Goof) - 94 Rustang

[spek1098]

Oh man, thats memorial weekend ain't it?
Bummer, can't make it, will be enjoying the BWCA that weekend

[AJ]

I'm in. good way to start a Sat!

[dmention7]

It woulda been kinda pointless on my 3, but I'm curious to know where this MSP is sitting.... so sign me up!

[JustROLLIN]

It woulda been kinda pointless on my 3, but I'm curious to know where this MSP is sitting.... so sign me up!

I hear ya, I am in the same boat for my 3, but if I ever decide to go crazy with mods, I will have a baseline to compare to.

[Big Nate]

Done and done I'm In.

[AJ]

This is a great chance for all Mazda owners to get a little experiance on how dynos work as well for those who have never had a car on one. In the end, get a nice printout with your numbers and frame it up for yoru garage if you'd like. How knows, maybe I'll show up with a couple of frames to give away just for that cause.

I'm also going to award a trophy for the MN Mazda Top HP numbers. And generally if we get enough cars we usually get $10 back on 5 of the dyno fees from the guys at LSE to allow us to raffle off the paid dyno time back to the members.

[mndsm]

Can I bring the Mini we just bought with? I'm looking to install a smaller supercharger pulley and some other stuff after a bit, and I wouldn't mind knowing what baseline is. Plus Taya will think it's fun.

[AJ]

Sure, why not. What year is it.

If I can get people to post their real first name, and car info we will get the list going. Also people feel free to post this around.

[mndsm]

Name is Tom, Mini is an 05 S.

[dmention7]

My real first name? What are you, some kind of internet stalker identify thief?????

No? Okay, it's Jay.

[niterydr]

Yay, I like dyno days :).

[dmention7]

Whoa there tiger.... don't get too excited now!


:p

[Turbotalon1g]

Nice, a dyno day that i should actually be able to make.

[Drumfreak]

This is a maybe for me. I'm getting a new intake mani soon so it would be nice to see what that adds but I also might tune at DB soon as well and why dyno twice, right?

[AJ]

Totaly up to you, at least come hang out with mn peeps. lol

[JustROLLIN]

Agreed, half the fun is BSing and hanging out on the side.

[Drumfreak]

I suppose I could. It could be a busy weekend for me since its a holiday weekend.

[shadyspeed3]

add me! im in! put me down for mini cooper identical to mndsm's! j/k 07' ms3

[mndsm]

How's the KA coming along? Any chance of seeing it run this year?

[JustROLLIN]

Looking at the dyno list, I cant even imagine who is going to have the lowest number. ::rollseyes::

[dmention7]

Maybe you'll get a booby prize!

[dmention7]

boobies > trophies

[Big Nate]

Yep maybe you will get too see some boobies

[dmention7]

Cars + Boobies = Hooray!

[Big Nate]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m297/speed6guy/th17235634_m.gif

56

Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is for you Jay.

And for all the guys at LSE. Go Team.

[JustROLLIN]

I am ok with having the low number of the day if thats my reward. Otherwise, I may have to buy another car before D-Day.

[dmention7]

From the look of that pic, maybe we should call it double-d day

[Turbotalon1g]

hhmmmmm,boobies

[niterydr]

Is she coming?

;).

[JustROLLIN]

She just left, but told me to tell everyone she will not be able to make it. But, she is flattered by the picture.

[Matt D.]

Posted on MNSC for you guys. If you want anything changed let me know.
http://mnscc.net/forum/showthread.php?t=48753

[JustROLLIN]

Posted on MNSC for you guys. If you want anything changed let me know.
http://mnscc.net/forum/showthread.php?t=48753

Thanks Matt!

[speed_addict]

add me to the list (ashlee)! im totally down! :D haven't done a dyno yet so it should be interesting.

[mazdamn02]

i'm now down for this for certain. gracias.

[photoeye0]

I might be down, I'll have to see what kinda moneys I have.

Hopefully I'll be a 15-17psi by then.

[adrush]

im there, never been to a mazda meet before. cant wait

[AJ]

Nice list we have going so far. Lets see if we can get that up to at least 10 and I'll see if will LSE lock in the $50 rate for us. :D

If you are looking to being multiple cars by chance let us know. I can't wait for this event!

[Big Nate]

This going to be a great time.

[dmention7]

Well, if you include Tom's MS3, that makes 9 cars right there... I'm pretty sure he said he was bringing both

[Blitzkid]

I'll be there as long as my cars done. Turbo kit should be here by the end of the week. :)

[mndsm]

I do plan on bringing both the Mini and the Speed3. Just for shits and giggles.

[niterydr]

I do plan on bringing both the Mini and the Speed3. Just for shits and giggles.

We get to dyno a Mini?

MAN! I've been looking foreward to dynoing one of those forever.

[dmention7]

And it's the cooper s, to boot!

[shadyspeed3]

ill bring my buddy with his uber gay/slow mustang 5.0 to get a baseline if that gets us at 50 for 3. hell mabye ill get the cx7 on the rollers

[RoadRageMotors]

im game and maybe i will bring the stealth too.....you guys want to see a car that like to jump off dynos?

[shadyspeed3]

either you dont know lse's shop or you got bigger tricks or pockets than their owner josh! if their was a car that was gonna jump off the dyno it would of been their own stealth

[mndsm]

We get to dyno a Mini?

MAN! I've been looking foreward to dynoing one of those forever.

You actually WANT to dyno that thing? Seems odd. Most people give me shit for liking that car.

[JustROLLIN]

Really? I think Mini's are sweet lil cars. Plus, BMW makes them, so I have no doubt its a quality product.

As for a 3/S jumping off the dyno, yeah you should be fine. Josh has one of the highest HP 3/S cars in the nation and their dyno is good to 1000+ hp. ;)

[niterydr]

You actually WANT to dyno that thing? Seems odd. Most people give me shit for liking that car.

I like weird stuff like that, plus I like mini's.

I want to buy a smart car as a daily and dyno that. I just love KNOWING how much things make.

[niterydr]

Really? I think Mini's are sweet lil cars. Plus, BMW makes them, so I have no doubt its a quality product.

As for a 3/S jumping off the dyno, yeah you should be fine. Josh has one of the highest HP 3/S cars in the nation and their dyno is good to 1000+ hp. ;)

2400hp per axle.

Unless the car needs an alignment, there is no way in hell its coming off the rollers.

[JustROLLIN]

2400hp per axle.

Unless the car needs an alignment, there is no way in hell its coming off the rollers.

Wow, guess I better keep my car at home. I know its gonna be jumping right off that thing with the HP my car is laying down.

:: cough :: Alignment :: cough ::

:score002:

[niterydr]

Wow, guess I better keep my car at home. I know its gonna be jumping right off that thing with the HP my car is laying down.

:: cough :: Alignment :: cough ::

:score002:

LOL. We can just hold the steering wheel to keep it straight.
We do strap the cars down, but you still need to "hang on".
:score001:

[JustROLLIN]

LOL. We can just hold the steering wheel to keep it straight.
We do strap the cars down, but you still need to "hang on".
:score001:

LOL. Nah, my alignment is fine. I am just not looking forward to making 120hp. I am used to laying down 200+ from my turbo days. Not that its all that great, but these sub Honda numbers just suck. :stupid2:

[mazdamn02]

i'll keep my numbers to myself :D

[RoadRageMotors]

Wow, guess I better keep my car at home. I know its gonna be jumping right off that thing with the HP my car is laying down.

:: cough :: Alignment :: cough ::

:score002:

lol the alignment is great it the way it comes on boost and the lack of traction that causes the problems. the car had been a dead project for me, since 01 it has just sat in the garage colecting dust because i way to much money in it to sell it.

[rotarywanderer]

add me to the list!!!

[Big Nate]

Post up your name and what kind of car youhave for the list.

[rotarywanderer]

Post up your name and what kind of car youhave for the list.
it's a secret!! lol

[RoadRageMotors]

add me to the list
Matt
mazdaspeed 6

[JustROLLIN]

Well, with the good sized list we are building, I will likely not be dynoing. I dont see the need to look at my 130whp dyno graph. ;)

[Big Nate]

I think you should still give it a run joe.

[dmention7]

Yeah, if you're going to be modding at all, might as well get an accurate baseline.

[JustROLLIN]

I think you guys just want me to dyno so you can assure that your car wont have the lowest number of the day. ;)

[Big Nate]

No i'm safe i think the mini will lock that down

[dmention7]

I dunno, that mini might give me a run for my money. Unless I get my midpipe in before then.

[JustROLLIN]

Yeah, I bet that mini will lay a solid 150-170 down. But, I have never seen a mini dyno, so who knows.

[dmention7]

I doubt if it will "lay down" 170, since I believe it's rated at 170hp--same as the MSP. 150 is probably not unreasonable though.

[JustROLLIN]

Oh really? I thought the Mini S was rated up in the 200-210 range. Forget 170 then.

[dmention7]

Maybe the 07's are. Taya's mini is an 05

[Big Nate]

nope 07 are 160-170

[AJ]

I'm guessing 134 to the wheels.

[mndsm]

140-ish has been what i've seen.

[shadyspeed3]

dude last year i dynoed my 91 mx6gt with 186,000 miles and put down 140whp/190ftlbs. no regrets here. pull your skirt up and do it for fun

[mndsm]

I plan on doing it for fun.

[Jesse MS3GT]

Count me in!

But with all the speed3's and speed6s... Im going to feel pathetic LOL

[MazdaMINI]

YAY for The MINI getting dynoed.... I dont really care if its the lowest on the totem poll..... it weighs a lot less than the rest of your cars too:D

[Crazy Rx-8 Driver]

I think I may have to show up and DYNO.

I went bone stock last year to get a base dyno at DB... but they have a Dyno Dynamic so it's loaded and the readings were different from a Jet Dyno, but converted to Jet it wasnt so bad lol

looking forward to see what it'll do with an CAI and lighter flywheel.

[aviateur]

I'm in for the Dyno as well. I'd really like to see where my car is at after making it breathe better

[AJ]

I think I may have to show up and DYNO.

I went bone stock last year to get a base dyno at DB... but they have a Dyno Dynamic so it's loaded and the readings were different from a Jet Dyno, but converted to Jet it wasnt so bad lol

looking forward to see what it'll do with an CAI and lighter flywheel.


LSE also has a DD Dyno. So you'll be able to see any increases fro many changes.

[mndsm]

I'm in for the Dyno as well. I'd really like to see where my car is at after making it breathe better


I know what it'll do on a Mustang Dyno..... i've seen Josh's sheets from RS. Hell, I was there!

[dmention7]

Shit! I just realized I can't make this one. I already RSVP'd for a wedding that saturday :(

Any idea when the next one of these is going down? Damn, that sucks... I was looking forward to this!

[aviateur]

I know what it'll do on a Mustang Dyno..... i've seen Josh's sheets from RS. Hell, I was there!

He needs to scan the results and post em :)

[mndsm]

Nah, it's more interesting to keep it a surprise.

[Picklz]

Alright now that I've got a Speed3 Sign me up! Matt 07 MS3, if something changes (with work) and I can't make it I'll post but it looks good right now.

[Jesse MS3GT]

Our first official meet/dyno day for the year is ready for entrants.

When: May 26th - 11am Until All Cars Have Made Their Pulls
Where: LSE Performance (http://www.lseperformance.com)
What: Dyno Test Vehicles, BBQ, and One Hell of a Good Time!
Who: Primarily Any/All Members of MNmazda.com - Others are welcome!
Why: So We Can See What Kind of Numbers Our Cars Lay Down and Meet/Hang With Other Members of the Site.

Yes, LSE Performance has been kind enough to host the 1st official MNmazda.com Dyno Day. The cost will be $60 for 3 pulls on their state of the art Dyno. LSE is setup to handle FWD, RWD, and AWD vehicles up to 1,000+ HP. So, all of us should have no issues laying down some accurate baseline pulls on their equipment. The MNmazda.com staff has also decided to do some grilling and we will be selling hot dogs and soda for those who are interested.

If you have interest in finding out what kinda power your car will lay down, please respond in this thread and we will gladly add you to the list.

:partytime2:

The List

1) JustROLLIN (Joe) - 07 Mazda 3 sSport
2) TCSpeed6 (AJ) - 06 Mazdaspeed 6
3) Dmention7 (Jay) - 03.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
4) mndsm (Tom) - 05 Mini Cooper S
5) Speed6 Guy (Nate) - 06 Mazdaspeed 6
6) Shady240sx (John) - 07 Mazdaspeed 3
7) Speed Addict (Ashlee) - 03 Mazdaspeed Protege
8) Mazdamn02 (Josh) - 07 Mazdaspeed3
9) mndsm (Tom) - 07 Mazdaspeed 3
10)rotarywanderer (???) - ?????????
11)RoadRageMotors (Matt) - Mazdaspeed 6
12)MrMatt (Matt) - Mazdaspeed 3

So am I not allowed to come or what? because I planned on coming.... Ill have a speed3 instead though.

[JustROLLIN]

Sure you are... I guess we must have overlooked your post saying that you wanted to dyno... I will gladly add you to the list though.

Done and done... I even let you take my spot on the top of the list. I will not be dynoing the 3 as I am going to buy a DSM project on the side. If I have one by then, I will dyno it...

[shadyspeed3]

what the hell, letr just call it mazdaspeed3 dyno day or better off disi dyno day! i think im gonna make one of the later runs and if there isnt that much change i might not do it.

[Jesse MS3GT]

what the hell, letr just call it mazdaspeed3 dyno day or better off disi dyno day! i think im gonna make one of the later runs and if there isnt that much change i might not do it.

LOL

[RockLobster]

I'm interested in attending this.

BTW, hi!

-Chad

[Blitzkid]

duder is coating/porting my turbo kit right now. its going to be close, but I'll be there whether my cars done or not.

[JustROLLIN]

Cool man, hopefully you can get the car together in time.

[JustROLLIN]

Well, we are about a week and two days away from the big event. We have some cool awards and prizes for the event. So, if you know anyone else who is interested, either to make some pulls or just watch, let them know!

[mndsm]

What are the categories?

(dumb curiosity point.)

[dmention7]

Woohoo! Add me back on the list... the wedding doesn't start till 6, so as long as I can go earlier in the day, I should be golden!

[JustROLLIN]

Thats no problem, we can make sure we get you on the rollers early enough to get out and get ready for the wedding.

[aviateur]

Got 2 more for the list!

Jeff (aviateur) - Mazdaspeed 3

I've also got a friend who's interested but not on this forum..
Dan - VW GTI

[shadyspeed3]

+1 more brandon aka goof- 94 mustang kid needs a baseline before he mods. dont laugh at him please! lol

[AJ]

Sweetness.

[micahlarson]

I would come but I don't get off work till 6 and i'm in little canada

[JustROLLIN]

+1 more brandon aka goof- 94 mustang kid needs a baseline before he mods. dont laugh at him please! lol

Nah man, I dont know about the rest of the guys, but I am a car guy. I love to see all types laying down numbers. Plus, some diversity on the dyno will be a good thing.

But, you might wanna remind him to bring a spare engine so when the Ford coughs up that 302, which it will, he can just leave for the guys to swap in a new one. ;)

[pingwin77]

Anyone want to come pick my car up and run it? I would love to be there but I will be at a wedding at 1. Besides, I don't think there is even a regular Mazda on the guest list for this.

[JustROLLIN]

Where do you live and are do you really wanna pay $50 for dyno runs you wont be there to see?

[pingwin77]

I'm in savage and not really. I wanted to get a base line done but I will just end up waiting to I'm done working on it.

[JustROLLIN]

Well peoples, we are down to the last week before the event. Any requests for Kosher, Vegetarian, or Vegan meals were due last Firday so hopefully everyone made their requests already. If not, sorry, cant help ya now.

Again, feel free to invite anyone out who you think would enjoy the event. We are having a world-class BBQ master come in. (Matt D) He will be flipping burgers and grilling dogs to your request, or burnt to a crisp. Whichever he feels is easier. We also have some trophies and awards ready to hand out for those with big numbers and not so big numbers. ;) So come one, come all...

[AJ]

I took my name off the dyno list. I either won't have my car, or will have just got a new clutch installed and I know I won't have time to break it in. Plus, being jobless right now, I can think of better ways to spend $50 bucks.

[pingwin77]

Well peoples, we are down to the last week before the event. Any requests for Kosher, Vegetarian, or Vegan meals were due last Firday so hopefully everyone made their requests already. If not, sorry, cant help ya now.

Again, feel free to invite anyone out who you think would enjoy the event. We are having a world-class BBQ master come in. (Matt D) He will be flipping burgers and grilling dogs to your request, or burnt to a crisp. Whichever he feels is easier. We also have some trophies and awards ready to hand out for those with big numbers and not so big numbers. ;) So come one, come all...

Well crap...I could easily get the award for the smallest numbers.

[dmention7]

Okay, I'm going to have to be a lame-o and remove my name from the list again. Had some unexpected expenses come up and that $50 isn't in the budget anymore. I still plan to swing by and hang out for a couple hours though. Maybe I'll have some mods worth dynoing by the next one.

[speed_addict]

I got work off, so I will be there for sure.

[JustROLLIN]

Go to page one of this thread and click the "LSE" link.

Top left of their hompage - Directions - has a google map built in.

[AJ]

http://lseperformance.com/map.html

[JustROLLIN]

^^^^^ Yeah, that works too.... ;)

[Jesse MS3GT]

is this list also the order of the pulls? heh

[JustROLLIN]

Not by any means... If some people need to lay pulls early in the going, we can accomodate.

[aviateur]

How long does it usually take to do the pulls from drive on to drive off?

[Jesse MS3GT]

^ yeah I was kind of wondering, might put my stock intake on vs the cp-e to see the diff if there is enough time

[AJ]

There will be no swapping parts or tuning. It's standard at club dyno day events for the cars to get on, make a few pulls, adjust small settings (boost and things easily and quickly adjustable, ie. in seconds) and then roll off. A car should generally be on and off within 20-30 min as long as strapping goes well.

For additional testing of parts, settings, or tuning you'll want to chat with the guys at LSE.

*note that is we are waiting for more cars to show up or have a low turnout this can all change based on how the guys are feeling up there and if they want to see various results but chance are slim this will happen*

[mndsm]

Yeah, I want late pulls if possible, I may not be there right at 11.... work in the AM.

[aviateur]

I'm assuming we'll get the printout for HP,TQ, and AFR vs RPM.

Are boost level and throttle position also available?

[JustROLLIN]

Yes, you will get a printout. As for the other parameters, I think they can add them onto the print out, but dont quote me. The PO will definitely have HP and TQ though.

[AJ]

Anyone looking to possible frame their first Dyno Printout for their car, I HIGHLY suggest just hitting up a Walgreens. Grab one of their regular paper size frames (they are less than $5) and enjoy a nice, framed, printout of your best numbers.

[niterydr]

I'm assuming we'll get the printout for HP,TQ, and AFR vs RPM.

Are boost level and throttle position also available?

We log:
AFR, torque (raw tractive effort), hp, engine rpm, wheel speed, boost pressure, intake air temperature at the probe.

We do not have a way of monitoring throttle position, but on a MS6 It won't exceed 4.2volts, I can tell you that much ;).

[Picklz]

Alright this sucks but I'm going to have to Bail on saturday's event. New job at work and being oncall = looks like I'm going to have to work that day. Please remove me from the list, I'm going to try and get out of this so I can still show up but doesn't look good right now.

-Matt

[JustROLLIN]

Bummer man, everyone is backing out last minute... I will remove ya from the list.

[Jesse MS3GT]

Im not backing out but id like to get my runs in early to leave i have plans later that day...

Does anyone recommend not dynoing with break in oil?

[AJ]

Im not backing out but id like to get my runs in early to leave i have plans later that day...

Does anyone recommend not dynoing with break in oil?

You'll be fine. As long as the Clutch is broken in, you're set.

[kzoomatt]

I'll be there in the morning when I wake up but won't be on the dyno unless we all want to get a good laugh at how low of numbers a carbed 12a makes.

[Turbotalon1g]

Anyone wanna hit up cedar falls raceway afterward?

[JustROLLIN]

I would not be racing, but I might be up for going.

[AJ]

I'll be there in the morning when I wake up but won't be on the dyno unless we all want to get a good laugh at how low of numbers a carbed 12a makes.

Low HP get's a trophy. :D

[micahlarson]

well then Im' in like flint... I have a stock car.. lol I win!

[AJ]

Fun day!!! Glad to meet a few new people from the site. The weather turned out to be perfect (mind a little wind) after the first sprinkle left town.

Pics will be up shortly.

[aviateur]

Here are the results

[speed_addict]

well then Im' in like flint... I have a stock car.. lol I win!

He he, You should have come. There is a good chance you would have stolen that low HP trophy from me..... :p

[shadyspeed3]

WTF!!!!! When did it change to the 26th!? i swear for the longest time it was gonna be on sunday? DAMN i really wanted to do it but i never saw the date change! guess im screwed:Banane56:

[niterydr]

Great times, thanks to everyone that came out!

I am really impressed with the strong showing of the local mazda community.

[micahlarson]

lol.. well I couldn't... I was working.. then I went to the casino

[JustROLLIN]

WTF!!!!! When did it change to the 26th!? i swear for the longest time it was gonna be on sunday? DAMN i really wanted to do it but i never saw the date change! guess im screwed:Banane56:

LOL. Dude, it has always been the 26th.

Big thanks to LSE and all those who helped make it a great day!

[Turbotalon1g]

Great day, you mazda folks are a good bunch, now to get those things to the track.

[kzoomatt]

Please tell me someone got the rx-7's on video for their dyno runs!

[Jesse MS3GT]

Well at least I can now put a couple faces with the screen names! Had a good time.

Time for the track

[Jesse MS3GT]

Please tell me someone got the rx-7's on video for their dyno runs!

Plenty of people were taping so someone probably has a video of it.

Which reminds me, anyone got a video of my bug splattered car on the dyno?

[Jesse MS3GT]

He he, You should have come. There is a good chance you would have stolen that low HP trophy from me..... :p

Im glad I went home with no trophy :) hahaha

BTW you all drink some nasty beer... How do you drink that stuff????

[AJ]

Just a little FYI, I'm upgrading our Gallery software today to a Pro version. So pics will be up shortly. If you can, please hold off uploading anything from the event till I can make sure it's all good. Worst case, we might lose a few pics between the backups.

[maspeed81]

Wow nice number on the RX7 Seng.

[JustROLLIN]

Yeah, Chad also made some really good numbers considering the engine was just broken in, the car was only running 5psi, and was running pretty lean up top. With some time on the dyno and tuning, I have no doubt the car will easily lay 300-350 down.

[mndsm]

That car was wild to watch. I could not believe that it threw down 245 without a blink on a rough tune. That car is going to be a monster when it's done and boosting 10psi.

[RockLobster]

Yep, if you ever need a rotary built for you, I highly recomend Pineapple racing. Rob builds outstanding motors.

To be honest I am probably not going to hook up the boost controller at all, at least not for the forseeable future. The car is making about all the power it will safely make on the injectors I have in it. And the power/torque curves are sex as it is, nice and smooooth. I only have the stock 550cc primaries and RCeng 750cc secondaries. Togeather, that is good for about 300 "crank" hp safely. I have no need to be able to claim a HP number or boast a boost level, I want reliable smooth power for the track. Further above 300HP my current turbo will be out of its efficiency range.

Also, anything above 300HP is going to start to become too much for my brakes and tires on the track and ill just start destorying parts, and burning the rubber off it with 225 tires. Or, ill never be able to keep the rear end from stepping out. Either way that could get really expensive, really fast. ;)

By the time they were able to make a full run with it on sat it they had it richened up so much that there was no way it was lean anywhere. But at first it was leaned out mid RPMs. Once the secondary injectors kicked in it settled out. Ive done some more tuning and got it pretty close to dialed in now. Another dyno visit and it should be ready to go spank some elises, evos, and STIs on the track. ;)

[mazdamn02]

Wow, I just saw the white board numbers and my Ms3 outdid those numbers by a bit, although it was on a different dyno. Mine pulled 229hp/245tq on a Mustang dyno @ RS Motors. I do have a CAI.
Interesting.... I'm not trying to start controversy, just an observation.

edit: ...meh, my tq is down, oh well. who cares? jeff's pull at 260 something torque is pretty sweet!

[rotarywanderer]

Wow nice number on the RX7 Seng.thanks, but I'm still very dissappointed. I was hoping for high 3's.. maybe a different exhaust, little bit better tunning, and I'll be back on the dyno again...

[Jesse MS3GT]

Wow, I just saw the white board numbers and my Ms3 outdid those numbers by a bit, although it was on a different dyno. Mine pulled 229hp/245tq on a Mustang dyno @ RS Motors. I do have a CAI.
Interesting.... I'm not trying to start controversy, just an observation.

edit: ...meh, my tq is down, oh well. who cares? jeff's pull at 260 something torque is pretty sweet!

Only numbers that count are ones from the track lol

[JustROLLIN]

Wow, I just saw the white board numbers and my Ms3 outdid those numbers by a bit, although it was on a different dyno. Mine pulled 229hp/245tq on a Mustang dyno @ RS Motors. I do have a CAI.
Interesting.... I'm not trying to start controversy, just an observation.

edit: ...meh, my tq is down, oh well. who cares? jeff's pull at 260 something torque is pretty sweet!

Typically a Rustang dyno will read higher numbers than a Dyno Dynamics... The Dyno Dynamics are one of the lowest readings out there, but supposedly more accurate. On a side note, the shop could care less about what numbers people make. LSE is more based on tuning and having an accurate picture of how much power they are actually gaining through mods and tuning. LSE will be the first ones to say that if you want a big number to brag about, go elsewhere. LOL.

[niterydr]

Typically a Rustang dyno will read higher numbers than a Dyno Dynamics... The Dyno Dynamics are one of the lowest readings out there, but supposedly more accurate. On a side note, the shop could care less about what numbers people make. LSE is more based on tuning and having an accurate picture of how much power they are actually gaining through mods and tuning. LSE will be the first ones to say that if you want a big number to brag about, go elsewhere. LOL.

Word.
We own a dyno and sponser a track. Unfortunally we live in minnesota so using the track isn't as often as we'd like.
So the Dyno is used for tuning :). If we wanted something to help us sell parts, we'd purchase another brand of chassis dyno. We use it for accurate tuning and accurate comparisons, hince why we own a Dyno Dynamics. What I can troubleshoot in an enclosed environment is priceless.

[RockLobster]

I did a few dyno runs last year with almost the exact same setup at RS motors on thier mustang dyno. Nice dyno, but not up to par with LSEs setup.

Interesting side note, before my port and rebuild my FC put down 180 on the same boost turbo, exh, and puter.

Amazing what a fresh engine with a port job will do.

[JustROLLIN]

Yeah Chad and Seng, I was really diggin your cars. I have always been into the RX-7 and even worked on one or two. But, to see them lay numbers and hear the distinct tone was a blast. Thanks for showing up guys!

[kzoomatt]

I'm so pissed I missed the sevens dyno, but june 5th my fc comes out to minnesota for the turbo II swap.

[AJ]

I'll admit, I think it would be a blast to own a Turbo II now. I thought every aspect of that car was nice and I'd love to own one.

[LASERBLUE135]

Wow, I just saw the white board numbers and my Ms3 outdid those numbers by a bit, although it was on a different dyno. Mine pulled 229hp/245tq on a Mustang dyno @ RS Motors. I do have a CAI.
Interesting.... I'm not trying to start controversy, just an observation.

edit: ...meh, my tq is down, oh well. who cares? jeff's pull at 260 something torque is pretty sweet!

torque #'s were more accurate, but most likely still low. the hp #'s were VERY low, LSE's dyno is very accurate pull to pull, but the numbers are going to be below other dynos because it is set up more for accuracy in TUNING. Ashly's MSP hit 130hp and my stock MSP hit 145 on Elite's dyno for instance.

[RockLobster]

It was cool to have all the mostly stock Mazdaspeed cars there. Since all the 6s put down roughly 210 all wheel and the 3s put down 220 fwhp it gave me a nice 2 wheel and 4 wheel correction factor for thier dyno to get a rough estimate of my own flywheel horsepower.

[niterydr]

It was cool to have all the mostly stock Mazdaspeed cars there. Since all the 6s put down roughly 210 all wheel and the 3s put down 220 fwhp it gave me a nice 2 wheel and 4 wheel correction factor for thier dyno to get a rough estimate of my own flywheel horsepower.

I enjoyed tuning your vehicle, how does it drive now compared to before?
Did you get my VM regarding the double charge issue?

[LASERBLUE135]

the pics are BIG sorry if that's bad for some of you.
pics...
THE NUMBERS...this is what the cars laid down.
http://www.mnmazda.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=135&d=1180242102
3 dsms
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/3%20dsms.jpg
big a## V8 backing on to the dyno
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/mini%20in%20shop%20pic.jpg
baby mazdaspeeds gen1 and gen2
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/ms3%20msp%20frnt.jpg
very nice RX7 front
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/rx7%20msp%20front.jpg
rx7 rear
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/rx7%20rear.jpg
the shop cars
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/shop%20pic.jpg
the running shop cars
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/subies.jpg
the enemy
http://www.msprotege.com/members/LASERBLUE135/sr4.jpg


vids are here...
MS3 on the dyno
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k4W81u2Suio
MS3 stock dyno graph
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R20EfdhWedw
a goofed up dyno run
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wGAczrC6WQk
Mini cooper S dyno
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yI9ZLc8cNZE
Mini cooper S dyno graph
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dmQjURtLTDc
2nd graph of the Cooper S just showing how accurate the dyno was run to run
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QHSr5M-KvQU
Supercharged GTI dyno
http://youtube.com/watch?v=icp7GLu5r4U
Supercharged GTI dyno graph
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-idJLroyBJ4

sorry no RX7 dynos, I had to leave blame the other people.

note...the car's hp #'s are LOWER at LSE because the dyno is tured for accuracy PULL TO PULL for tuning. LSE uses a state of the art brand new Dyno Dynamics unit. You can figure the correction factor IF YOU REALLY WANT TO by looking at the following numbers...

here are the numbers of some stock cars that have dyno'd there vs other dynos numbers...
stock rx8 LSE 179hp vs 203 hp on mustang dyno
stock MSP LSE 130hp vs my stock MSP 145 hp on dynojet
stock 06 Viper LSE 405hp vs 455 hp on dynojet
stock MINI S LSE 154hp vs 163 hp dynojet (the mini did VERY well on this dyno)

[Jesse MS3GT]

Sweet thats my car :D

[JustROLLIN]

Your pics dont work.

[LASERBLUE135]

pics fixed, but still HUGE.

[niterydr]

The dsm pic has only 2 dsm's in it. The 3000gt is not a DSM in the middle. 3000gt's/stealths were manufactured in Japan, not Illinois like the DSM cousins.

Nice camera work, what camera do you have?

[RockLobster]

I enjoyed tuning your vehicle, how does it drive now compared to before?
Did you get my VM regarding the double charge issue?

Yep, got the VM, I have been out of town, I figured it would be no biggie, Ill call you soon to set up another tuning session.

Car drives nice, i did a little more tuning on my own and seem to have figured out why it richened up soo much mid-high, while taking some fuel out there. The new higher flow secondary injectors were dumping a bunch of fuel in, good news is it wasnt bottoming out the AFM. I watched the SAFC monitor the AFM signal, it never got over 80% and it was always varying.

I'll bring it back for the fine tuning.