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    OK this is it the second detail. This is the detail of my 2001 Expedition. I will go step by step through it so everyone can see how much of an improvement can be made. Like I have said before feel free to ask questions and give your feed back on how this can apply to you and your car.

    In this detail I will be doing some heavy polishing and scratch removing. I will also be polishing the headlight lenses, the chrome bumpers and I will be treating the black plastic on the out side of the windows. I will be doing a full interior cleaning with carpet shampoo also. Last whatever I see along the way.

    Here are the before pictures so you can see the progress.
















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    Ok guys here is the next installment.

    This is the how to remove swirls and light scratches.

    Look at what you have to start with. Is there deep scratches (ones you can catch your fingernail on) or just light surface scratches?
    Do I have swirls?
    Is there places one the car that look dull and cloudy?
    Is the surface of the paint smooth?
    What do I want to accomplish with my polishing?


    Ok now that you know what you have and where you want to go I will fill in the path to get there.


    I will look at what I have to start with.



    From the gas cap hitting the paint.



    Swirl and scratch city and I’m the major. I also removed the pinstripe you can see where it use to be.



    See the strip of perfect paint that was a pinstripe.



    Now I will figure out where I want to end up. With my truck it is a 01 with 100k on it so I can’t expect it to get back to perfect. I want there to be no swirls and to make the scratch less noticeable. I would also like to remove some of the scratches when possible.


    Here are the products that I will be using to get the results.



    My first step is an easy one wash the car. I use what is called the two bucket method. Let’s start with clean water and a freshly rinsed container and a micro fiber wash mitt. Use two buckets. Fill one bucket with soapy water and fill the other with clean water. Always rinse your vehicle thoroughly before you begin washing in order to remove loose dirt and grime. Each time you’re ready to reload your mitt with soapy water, dip it in the clean water first, to rinse out the grit and contamination you’ve just removed from your vehicle. Then dip it in the soapy water and continue washing. Then begin washing at the top of the vehicle. Wash down the vehicle as opposed to front to back. Remember that the lower panels are dirtiest. You want to clean the windows and the upper panels before cleaning the lower half of the vehicle so that you don’t transfer grit to the top half of the vehicle. Rinse and reload your mitt often to prevent cross-contamination. Rinse your vehicle frequently as you work, especially in hot weather. Free-flowing water (no nozzle) will allow the water to sheet off of your vehicle for a more thorough rinsing.


    Then I will use a clay bar to remove contaminates from the clear coat.
    Sorry no pictures the fucken camera shit the bed on me and I had to replace it. The first thing you need to know about clay is that IT IS ABBRASIVE. So don’t think that you are going to be ok with just running the clay bar over your car every time you wax. You should only clay two to three times a year. If you drop the clay bar on the ground count that one out and toss it in the trash. There is a good possibility that it has picked up some grit from the ground and you don’t want to rub that on your clear coat do you. Lets get this going.

    Get your clay bar out (doesn’t matter what brand they are all the same really they are) and a spray bottle with about a 100/1 of water/car shampoo. Don’t use dawn it will strip the wax off your car and there are a lot of places that you don’t want that to happen unless you enjoy waxing you door jams every time you wash your car then feel free to use dawn. Spray the panel you rare working on down with the soap mix and place the bar on the paint and go in long STRAIT lines. Don’t go in circles that is how a lot of swirls get put into the paint. Also only work on like a three square foot area at a time.
    As you rub keep the panel wet with the spray and you will feel it becoming much easier to move as the paint is cleaned.
    After you have made about three passes over every spot on the panel rinse with fresh water and dry with an mft (micro fiber towel). You will see some dull places in the paint, no fear they will be gone in the end, but the paint should feel very smooth and clean if not back to the clay for a few more passes.
    As you go don’t forget the windows. Clay works just the same on you windows as it does on the clear coat. The only thing that is different is the glass is significantly harder then the clear coat, so don’t be afraid scratching it.

    After your done with the clay it is time for another wash.

    Ok now you have a very clean and contaminate free car. The next step will be to remove the swirls and scratches.

    To do this I will be using fine cut rubbing compound and a compounding pad on my PC (Porter-Cable orbital polisher/sander). First thing you want to do is setup the car for polish to do this tape off all black trim that you will be coming close to with the polisher. As you can see in this picture.



    Once you have the car taped you can get to the compounding. Take the same approach as with the clay move panel by panel in about three square foot blocks around the car.



    Here you can see how much I do at a time. Only use about three quarter sized spots of polish on the pad on each panel you do. Start at a very slow rpm and move across the surface very slowly over lapping you r passes by 50%. Go in at least three different directions. As the polish breaks down it will begin to dry at this time you can pump up the speed a bit and move much more rapidly over the clear coat. When there is little to no haze left on the surface you are good stop wipe with an mft and check you results. If there are still some small scratches and marks you can repeat the process.



    Here is a good shot of what it looks like when you can bump up the speed a bit.



    Here is a shot of a dead sexy “professional” detailer hard at work.
    Don’t act like your not impressed.

    Ok you made your way all the way around the car with the polish now it is time to polish again. I know your like shit this is going to take forever if I have to do it all over again but please bear with me and stick it out your clear coat will thank you.

    Do this step the exact same as the previous compounding step only switch to a polishing glaze or finishing compound. Also clean your pad out very well so you can get the finer finishing compound to work properly.

    Here are some money shots for you to take a look at.



    This is before compound and glaze



    This is after.

    WOW I am good.


    Now it on to wax. This step is one of the most misunderstood steps in the detail process. First thing, the true wax is not designed to remove scratches or swirls at all. It is designed to make the finish shine and look wet and deep. There are several cleaner wax products available that are designed to remove some scratches and swirls I do not recommend them as a final coat though (if you use the process that I use that is). The 3M liquid wax that I use has no abrasive properties what so ever. It is only for protection and shine.

    Please feel free to post a picture of what you have or a link to a picture and I will tell you what I think of the product. I my car cleaning carrier I have used well over 30 different products some with much success and others with very little success to actually making the clear coat worse.

    So now let’s get to the point. Start buy masking off the trim if you haven’t yet. Leave the windows open though you will be waxing them as well.

    Use the finest pad you can find and use the highest speed the PC has. This will apply the most even coat to the surface as possible. Preload your pad with quick detail spray so you don’t over load it with wax. To do this pray the pad with two to three sprays and then put your three quarter sized drops on the pad. You can move much faster with the wax because there is no need to break down the product.


    Here is a shot of how much more space you can cover when you apply the wax.



    Also look at how I did the window just the same as the clear coat.

    To remove the wax I use a power waxier like this.



    Like I have said before I don’t do anything by hand unless that is the only way. Plus this will help you shine it up and make it look like a deep pool of water.

    Here we go a before wax




    And an after wax



    You can see how much more depth there is to the shine also I have a good shot here.



    And from here on till the next wax/polish you can use a quick detail spray to help the shine. Just mke sure the surface is clean before you use it. I like to use quick detail spray for water spots that come after a wash and dry.

    Tonight I will take some picture out in the sun so you can get the full affect of the detail that I do.

    PS I am open for new ideas if you have anything to add just post it up.

    Nate
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    Looks real good. I think it would be dealt more justice if some "after" pics were taken in sunlight

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    That is what i am thinking also. I will be taking more pictures today and will post them up.

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    Here are the some before and after shots of my truck.



    Before



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    little green men in your driveway?

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    What, you don't have those in yours?


    And nate, you crazy. 95% of people would consider your before picture clean!

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    My wife does day care and that is a sign that says slow down kids at play.

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    I still see a little green man...

    Quote Originally Posted by Speed6 Guy View Post
    My wife does day care and that is a sign that says slow down kids at play.

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