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Who killed the electric car?

dmention7

dmention7

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That's not a conspiracy theory, that's just big business doing what big business does best: fight tooth and nail to protect its profits and fuck the consumer.
 
Jesse MS3GT

Jesse MS3GT

Querulous
Then you must fail to realize other conspiracy theories... Same rule applies... People trying to keep money/power/control but OK ;)
 
dmention7

dmention7

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It's not a conspiracy though. It's just business.

There is a damn far stretch between believing that big oil companies would buy out technology that threatens to undermine their profits--despite the ethical concerns--and believing that the government would intentionally kill thousands of civilians in a mock-terrorist attack. Especially when you consider the entire body of surrounding evidence. One is simply a business transaction, the other one is a convoluted and contradictory story.
 
dmention7

dmention7

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I mean, you can't label every single behind-the-scenes business strategy as a conspiracy. Otherwise, you get "OMG COKE HAS AN EXCLUSIVE DEAL WITH THE U of M!!! CONSPIRAX0RCY!!!one!!!1" and "ZOMG APPLE MAKES YOU BUY MUSIC FROM ITUNES TO USE WITH THEIR IPODS!!!!! ONOES CONSPIRACY!!!"

It's just common sense. Do we have to like the implications of the business deals? Hell no. But just because we don't like something shady they do, doesn't make it a freakin conspiracy. Otherwise, what do you say? That oil companies are conspiring to make their products as desirable as possible for as long as possible by buying competing technology?

Now if they were paying the government to put chemicals in municipal water supplies that caused us to mutate and develop addiction to chemicals in the exhaust of cars that burned only their brand of gasoline, then you might have something worthy of being labeled a conspiracy.
 
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Jesse MS3GT

Jesse MS3GT

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It depends on which scientists and physicists you believe on the tower collapse. And yes I did consider all the surrounding evidence, from the governments report to independent physicists and former cia agents. I guess I just side with the agents and scientists who speak aginst the governments report because I think the govament cheese is out to get me :rolleyes: Course the big oil companies wouldnt want us in oil filled Iraq, and Bush has no ties to oil... So tying in 9/11 to Iraq to get us in there is an absurd thought. Thats another argument.

When is the tesla roadster coming out? Or have the oil companies bought that car out already?
 
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cosmicspd3

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I enjoyed the movie and cant wait for more EV cars to start coming. if they had been R&D'ing battery technology since the first EV car's back in the early 1900's we could of had some wicked ones.
 
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spek1098

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Yea, I think in the end, it will be shown that GM shot themselves in the foot and help the Japs over take them in the market by the premature ending of the EV car program. The problem was all economics. At the time, oil was near $20 a barrel and gas was near $1 a gallon, so in that type of market, an electric car with limit mileage, was basically unchallenged, and GM didn't have the foresight to see the changing economic conditions that ended up being around the corner.

Wasn't much of the blame in the movie put on the board in California that was responsible for the states part of the funding? That's who I had heard was at the most fault for the demise of the EV1.

It's really to bad, maybe if GM hadn't given up on electric, drop $1 billion into the development of hydrogen (which as gone no where), and instead focused that on electric and hybrid technology, maybe Toyota wouldn't be leading the way in the auto market, and GM fighting for its survival.
 
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Z-licious

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cosmicspd3 said:
if they had been R&D'ing battery technology since the first EV car's back in the early 1900's we could of had some wicked ones.
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Weren't people still rolling in horse drawn carriages that long ago?
 
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ZoomZoom Diva

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Was Michael Moore involved? The preview seems to be terribly slanted that some great conspiracy dooming the electric car when much of it simply did not make economic sense. There are also liability concerns in place to leave an vehicle on the road that is completely unsupported, and the costs to support would be untenable.

Bottom line is gasoline is still the least expensive total cost of ownership.
 
Young Roids

Young Roids

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The tesla looks like a major step in the right direction. It is insane how much the oil companies have us by the balls right now. Did anyone see the truck protest in multiple cities today? THe truckers really can't make money with $4+ diesel prices. And don't get me started on that E85 trash, that in itself is a conspiracy.
 
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ZoomZoom Diva

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E10 (the "regular gas" we're required to use) is an even greater conspiracy than E85, though both qualify as true conspiracies. If nothing else, E85 could be produced far more efficiently using non-food crops and bulk wastes than the current corn-based production model.
 
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