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Originally Posted by Josh @ Cobb
We will likely be raising boost slightly on Stage 1 (no hard part modifications) and more with Stage 2 (TBE) but again.........we will run the boost we feel is appropriate. If you decide to remove a lot of good technology (the boost controls on the MS3 are very good compared to fish tank equipment AKA bleeder valves) than you do so against our recommendation and at your own risk.
We most likely will not take deposits. Keep in mind that most of the distributors will have AccessPORTs on the release day as well. But initial releases are always a lot of work and sometimes no matter how hard we try we may not be able to take care of everyone on the first batch.
At the initial release the tuning software may not be out for the Professional AccessTUNERs. That is anther long bit of work as well.
Fuel pumps on Direct Injection cars can raise fuel pressure at the injector. If they do under any condition(s) then a change in fuel mapping will be required.
We can tune out boost spikes. Fixing the fueling may work on stock ECU cars, but with ECU tuning things may be different.
AzMs3
“What have you been able to do to the MS3 so far?â€
We have been tuning for everything from stock to TBE, Intake, and FMIC. The results thus far are very good.
“Has your project car been flashed with the AP? I know there was an after
Sema buzz that someone from Cobb said the car has never been flashed with the AP.â€
Didn't know we had not said specifically that we have tuned the MS3 with the AccessPORT, but here it goes........
It has been flashed with the AccessPORT and we have been doing some tuning and testing in house for some time now.
We are still doing the same. Dialing-in the tuning, seeing what maps we need access to etc. We had been doing tuning before SEMA. When Tarzan (Eiji Yamada) drove our MS3 at GT Live (last spring) it was in the primary stages of tuning and his first comment was that the car was powerful. At that time we were using our in-house software and skipping the AccessPORT (as some of the changes were being made to AccessPORT base programming at the time) but that work has been completed and we have been using beta AcccessPORT tools in-house for some time.
“Will it be able to turn off secondary o2's for catless dp's?â€
Yes
“Can you raise idle?â€
Yes, but it has not been required thus far.
“How is the boost control, is it similar to some of the high end BC with gear and/or rpm based boost control?â€
the boost control is MUCH better than any form of aftermarket boost control hands down. It has the ability to alter boost for gear, speed, RPM, throttle position, ambient barometric pressure, and other factors.
“What AFR's are you tuning for especially in the high rpms were it dips into 9afr?â€
We are not targeting one specific AFR. To do so would be taking things back. We are leaning things up in most areas of full throttle, but not to a specific AFR. Different RPM, throttle positions, and different load values require different AFR's for power, reliability, and efficiency.
The SF Intake airbox is not ready yet. We are having to make a few changes to make it easier to produce. Pretty common when we get feedback from our laser cutting and bending contractor. Smile
Many of the hard parts for the AccessPORTs of all models are the same. And all of the engineering is done there. It is programming from here. We prefer not to release data until all testing is done. Just our way of making sure people get the most correct info possible. We prefer that the hype comes from how it will be released.
To change maps you only have to plug in the AccessPORT and switch maps. Takes a few seconds.
If any of you guys are gonna get this and tune it yourself I would love to ride along while you tune so I could learn how. I know it is very early to post this since it won't be comming out for a while still but I have always wanted to learn how to tune my car so I figured I would ask.:bengals:
We will likely be raising boost slightly on Stage 1 (no hard part modifications) and more with Stage 2 (TBE) but again.........we will run the boost we feel is appropriate. If you decide to remove a lot of good technology (the boost controls on the MS3 are very good compared to fish tank equipment AKA bleeder valves) than you do so against our recommendation and at your own risk.
We most likely will not take deposits. Keep in mind that most of the distributors will have AccessPORTs on the release day as well. But initial releases are always a lot of work and sometimes no matter how hard we try we may not be able to take care of everyone on the first batch.
At the initial release the tuning software may not be out for the Professional AccessTUNERs. That is anther long bit of work as well.
Fuel pumps on Direct Injection cars can raise fuel pressure at the injector. If they do under any condition(s) then a change in fuel mapping will be required.
We can tune out boost spikes. Fixing the fueling may work on stock ECU cars, but with ECU tuning things may be different.
AzMs3
“What have you been able to do to the MS3 so far?â€
We have been tuning for everything from stock to TBE, Intake, and FMIC. The results thus far are very good.
“Has your project car been flashed with the AP? I know there was an after
Sema buzz that someone from Cobb said the car has never been flashed with the AP.â€
Didn't know we had not said specifically that we have tuned the MS3 with the AccessPORT, but here it goes........
It has been flashed with the AccessPORT and we have been doing some tuning and testing in house for some time now.
We are still doing the same. Dialing-in the tuning, seeing what maps we need access to etc. We had been doing tuning before SEMA. When Tarzan (Eiji Yamada) drove our MS3 at GT Live (last spring) it was in the primary stages of tuning and his first comment was that the car was powerful. At that time we were using our in-house software and skipping the AccessPORT (as some of the changes were being made to AccessPORT base programming at the time) but that work has been completed and we have been using beta AcccessPORT tools in-house for some time.
“Will it be able to turn off secondary o2's for catless dp's?â€
Yes
“Can you raise idle?â€
Yes, but it has not been required thus far.
“How is the boost control, is it similar to some of the high end BC with gear and/or rpm based boost control?â€
the boost control is MUCH better than any form of aftermarket boost control hands down. It has the ability to alter boost for gear, speed, RPM, throttle position, ambient barometric pressure, and other factors.
“What AFR's are you tuning for especially in the high rpms were it dips into 9afr?â€
We are not targeting one specific AFR. To do so would be taking things back. We are leaning things up in most areas of full throttle, but not to a specific AFR. Different RPM, throttle positions, and different load values require different AFR's for power, reliability, and efficiency.
The SF Intake airbox is not ready yet. We are having to make a few changes to make it easier to produce. Pretty common when we get feedback from our laser cutting and bending contractor. Smile
Many of the hard parts for the AccessPORTs of all models are the same. And all of the engineering is done there. It is programming from here. We prefer not to release data until all testing is done. Just our way of making sure people get the most correct info possible. We prefer that the hype comes from how it will be released.
To change maps you only have to plug in the AccessPORT and switch maps. Takes a few seconds.
If any of you guys are gonna get this and tune it yourself I would love to ride along while you tune so I could learn how. I know it is very early to post this since it won't be comming out for a while still but I have always wanted to learn how to tune my car so I figured I would ask.:bengals:
