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Mafia game 5 - GAME IS ON!

mndsm

I'M OFFENDED!
This makes less sense to me. If a power role claims, they will not survive the night. We have one shot at a lynch, if it's not scum, game is over. Where the hell has everyone been? I need a time count.
 

Workdawg

NARWHAL
If we do not lynch scum, the game is over NO MATTER WHAT. It doesn't matter if a power role gets killed tonight if the game ends when we lynch a townie...
 

concealer404

Skanky Escorts LLC
Right... so why does it matter what role people say they are? Nobody is going to come in and say "Hey guys i'm scum!"

Everyone is going to say they're Town. Whether they're a power role or not at this point doesn't matter. I'm not even sure there's any power roles out there, there hasn't been any indication at all this entire thread that there is. Only vanilla townies have been lynched or killed by scum, and i find it hard to believe that the only two remaining townies besides me are power roles. If the other two town ARE power roles, then you should be ashamed for squandering your powers.
 

Workdawg

NARWHAL
Well, you guys aren't doing shit to try and find scum. If you happen to be sitting on a better plan, I'm all ears.
 

Picklz

SUDO Make me a SAMCH
So Ben is pushing NOT to reveal ALL the information we can possibly get right now, why the hell would you do that?

You don't want to reveal your powers early in the game if they don't give you information that will almost 100% let everyone lynch scum, or nearly 100% keep from lynching a townie, it's possible to learn information up to this point that would be helpful (or potentially helpful) now but not worth risking letting that out earlier in the game. Right now we are at a point where we HAVE to lynch scum or we're toast.

I'm the town Doctor, I've protected Dan both nights for two reasons.

1) I thought he was most Town in doing legitimate scum hunting (and the most of it)
2) I figured he probably had a high likelihood of being night killed as if I were scum I would see him as a big threat with his experience in the game.
 

concealer404

Skanky Escorts LLC
So Ben is pushing NOT to reveal ALL the information we can possibly get right now, why the hell would you do that?
Clearly that's what i said. Look! More twisting!

Ok really, that's not what i said at all. Stop with the twisting.

You don't want to reveal your powers early in the game if they don't give you information that will almost 100% let everyone lynch scum, or nearly 100% keep from lynching a townie, it's possible to learn information up to this point that would be helpful (or potentially helpful) now but not worth risking letting that out earlier in the game. Right now we are at a point where we HAVE to lynch scum or we're toast.

I'm the town Doctor, I've protected Dan both nights for two reasons.

1) I thought he was most Town in doing legitimate scum hunting (and the most of it)
2) I figured he probably had a high likelihood of being night killed as if I were scum I would see him as a big threat with his experience in the game.
I understand that you wouldn't want to reveal your powers first day... but how useful is it now that this is the last day of play, and a make or break? It's not. The powers have been squandered.

Unfortunately, i find it hard to believe Dan at this point since it doesn't seem like he put his powers to good use earlier in the game. We've done nothing but lynch ourselves and let the scum run rampant.

And if i can't believe Dan, then i can't really believe you. I don't believe that Dan was protected both nights, because i don't think he needed protection both nights.


Now the issue that i have in thinking that both of you are scum, is whether or not JT was the only "power role," since i'm just vanilla, and there would be no point to Thom and Andy simply claiming they're vanilla if they in fact had power roles.

So the two scenarios i'm seeing right now:

1) Scum: Dan/Picklz
Town: Me, Thom, Andy. NO POWER ROLES REMAINING

2) Scum: Thom/Andy
Town: Me, Dan, Picklz. No real information given from the two power roles the entire game.


Neither scenario feels 100% right. Scenario #1 seems more likely.
 

Workdawg

NARWHAL
Well then. Sadly I don't have any results to add to the pile.

N1 I watched JT, but didn't get any result. Obviously JT was killed, so that indicates there is a ninja in our midst (clearly making my role worthless).
N2 I watched Picklz, but again didn't get any result.

Obviously our scum have taken the safe claims with VT. Being the last to claim, Picklz could have easily lied and claimed Doc knowing no one would counter claim him. It's interesting that he protected me both nights (though I can't say that I blame him). But it does prevent me from revealing a lie with my watching results (I can't watch myself).

However, I'm inclined to believe that Picklz is town. The one or two times I have given him "town points" were based on his stating that he went back through the thread to look for more clues. At least from personal experience playing scum, I never feel the need to do that. It seems like a very town thing to do.

That leaves me with Ben, Tom, and Andy.
Tom has seemed pretty defensive to me, a lot.
I'm really not sure about Ben. He just hasn't done anything substantial that I can remember this game.
Andy did some bandwagon voting, but it is true that he did that quite a bit in the last game as well.

Rereading to see if anything sticks out.
 

Picklz

SUDO Make me a SAMCH
Whether they're a power role or not at this point doesn't matter.
That seems to be your defense every time Ben 'OMG he's twisting my words' ... It's getting pretty old

The above is flat out wrong - first it might help us learn who is very likely NOT to be scum - I think in the case of a watcher and a doctor that is unlikely - second IF someone claimed to have a role they do not have it might allow us to catch them in a lie, we'll see what Dan has to say about watcher here that might help us in our voting.
 

Picklz

SUDO Make me a SAMCH
Not going to lay a vote yet- BUUUUUUT, If Dan had gone down, you would likely be lynched immediately on d2. Self preservation states- kill someone who won't raise more suspicion at me.Think about that.
I believe you are scum because you are one of 5 people who voted for AJ and sense he was not scum and JT was not scum my odds are 33% to hit a scum. If both scum voted.
Clearly that's what i said. Look! More twisting!

Ok really, that's not what i said at all. Stop with the twisting.



I understand that you wouldn't want to reveal your powers first day... but how useful is it now that this is the last day of play, and a make or break? It's not. The powers have been squandered.

Unfortunately, i find it hard to believe Dan at this point since it doesn't seem like he put his powers to good use earlier in the game. We've done nothing but lynch ourselves and let the scum run rampant.

And if i can't believe Dan, then i can't really believe you. I don't believe that Dan was protected both nights, because i don't think he needed protection both nights.


Now the issue that i have in thinking that both of you are scum, is whether or not JT was the only "power role," since i'm just vanilla, and there would be no point to Thom and Andy simply claiming they're vanilla if they in fact had power roles.

So the two scenarios i'm seeing right now:

1) Scum: Dan/Picklz
Town: Me, Thom, Andy. NO POWER ROLES REMAINING

2) Scum: Thom/Andy
Town: Me, Dan, Picklz. No real information given from the two power roles the entire game.


Neither scenario feels 100% right. Scenario #1 seems more likely.
Please - enlighten me as to how the two remaining power roles (assuming they are true) should have been put to better use? Who do you think was more likely to be killed night 1 and 2...obviously hindsight is 20/20 but without knowing what we know now, only knowing what we knew during Night 1 and Night 2. Obviously coming out and saying I was a doctor after night 1 would have been dumb, I didn't learn anything worth sharing. Dan is in the same boat IMO better to use your powers another night and hope that more information turns up.
 

Picklz

SUDO Make me a SAMCH
FUCK why do those multi-quotes still get put in? This fucking forum I tell ya what :lol:

I was only tring to quote the last one there (Ben)
 

concealer404

Skanky Escorts LLC
That seems to be your defense every time Ben 'OMG he's twisting my words' ... It's getting pretty old

The above is flat out wrong - first it might help us learn who is very likely NOT to be scum - I think in the case of a watcher and a doctor that is unlikely - second IF someone claimed to have a role they do not have it might allow us to catch them in a lie, we'll see what Dan has to say about watcher here that might help us in our voting.

Arrrrggggggg...

There's a big difference between saying what i did, and what you said.

You said:
So Ben is pushing NOT to reveal ALL the information we can possibly get right now, why the hell would you do that?
Do you really have an argument against that, and you think that they're the same thing? o_O



Anyways... i'm going back to read the roles. I think one of you just lied and it just showed up in the last two posts.
 
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