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Outsourcing of Jobs.... Discuss!

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JustROLLIN

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Jesse MS3GT said:
This reminds me of how consumers think it is good that everything we buy is made in China. "They pay the Chinese low wages, we get our cheap products. We win!" Yeah but if you have no job to buy the Chinese made goods, what use is it to you in the end?

That has been going on for how long now, and whos economy is consuming ours? Chinas. Because they are getting OUR money by selling us their goods and they are taking our jobs along with our money.

If your "individuals" do not have a source of income, they cannot buy US goods and services to help the US economy. Outsourcing and buying too many foreign goods, no matter how cheap it is for the US consumer, is bad for our economy. The rich white men don't care as long as their corporations are making more profits. Its win win for the companies, not American citizens.
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Have you seen the unemployment rate lately? While the UR is not a perfect figure, by any means, it does give us a nice indicator as to where one major component of our economy stands. Last time I checked, we were right on point, about 5-6% unemployment. So, if we were really hurting due to these outsourced jobs, we would have a fluctuation in that rate, among other indicators.

I think Jay hit on a solid point though. The fact that companies who value the US worker will pay a premium for that labor. While I would imagine its a declining number, not too sure though, there are many companies willing to invest into the US worker and build their new factories here.
 
Jesse MS3GT

Jesse MS3GT

Querulous
You cant judge an economy by the unemployment rate. You should gauge it by the strength of its middle class. The average American makes less and less every year, the average man is growing poorer while the corps grow richer. The unemployment rate isnt the gauge it used to be... When wee had a strong middle class that was the best way to measure the weakness in the economy. Now we have a stable AMOUNT of jobs, but those same jobs pay less and have less benefits.
 
Big Nate

Big Nate

Chaos Engineer
Let me just say this not to get off topic. The top 50% of wage earners pay (about) 92% of all the taxes. I would bet that those jobs are not leaving do to out-sourcing.

And I’m out.

Nate:)
 
Z

ZoomZoom Diva

New Member
Jesse, the strength of the middle class is also an aggregate of personal decisions made by the people. The issue is not that decent pay and benefits are not available, but that a higher level of skill and education is needed to attain those better jobs. People need to realize that they need to increase their value in the labor marketplace to actually earn more money than merely expect to be paid more for doing the exact same thing.
 
Big Nate

Big Nate

Chaos Engineer
There are far too many people in the US who think they are entitled to a good paying job. Like James said you need to make yourself more valuable with school or training.
 
ij1889

ij1889

New Member
i just wanted to say something about the country a and b analogy, what is the usa now and days producing and mass exporting?
 
ij1889

ij1889

New Member
good points, but see we are only giving and not receiving, at some point we need to change that to were we give and also receive
 
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mazdamn02

Guest
ij1889 said:
good points, but see we are only giving and not receiving, at some point we need to change that to were we give and also receive
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Fail. We are receiving, in terms of services and goods though.

Could you be trying to refer to the fact that we don't export anything?
 
dmention7

dmention7

Hater
Wait, so we're just kinda sending out ships full of stuff for free??? Well, I guess that would explain why the economy sucks. Silly companies should really start sending out invoices and stuff.
 
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mazdamn02

Guest
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srsly.
 
J

JustROLLIN

Guest
I do agree that our trade deficit is an issue. But, the deficit is cyclical in a way. When our currency is highly valued, we will export less goods due to the higher cost. But, as we import goods and the value of the dollar falls, countries will start to import OUR goods as they become less and less expensive.

So, right now for example, we have a very low value on the dollar. This will actually help US companies, as outside countries will import our lower cost goods.
 
upgtx

upgtx

New Member
JustROLLIN said:
So, right now for example, we have a very low value on the dollar. This will actually help US companies, as outside countries will import our lower cost goods.
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Unless they can get a product from somewhere else for cheaper. Which is the case for most things. As it turns out, one of the biggest importers of US shit (Japan) are negotiating more and more trade with Chinese companies. So... yeah, the US economy sucks balls right now, and is not going to improve for a while.
 
Z

ZoomZoom Diva

New Member
upgtx, the whole point is there are things China has an advantage over us and things where we have an advantage over China. Let China do the things they can do better and concentrate on the things we can do better.
 
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