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Thoughts on the auto show?

YSOSLO

is the word, beotch
The family and I went to the auto show on Sunday and though it was smaller than it has been in years past (seriously....spread the cars out a bit more rather than mashing them into a tighter space), I was pleasantly surprised by the variety. It was great to see Fiskar's appearance and most manufacturers had a pretty nice variety.

We were mainly looking at potential replacements for Jess' 2004 Honda Pilot that's nearing 150K miles. I wasn't impressed at all by the new Pilot, but we were amazed at how much we liked the feel and versatility of the Volvo XC90. I also loved the panoramic roof on the Volkswagen Touareg and the Audi Q7, as well as the mileage of the TDIs. I was disappointed by the high load-in height of the Q7 and small cargo area overall, so the Touareg is my #1 choice with the XC90 a close 2nd. If the Volvo had a panoramic roof I'd be all over it. The fact that the Touareg doesn't even come with the option of a DVD player is a major disappointment for Jess (a surprising oversight to me too, given the price points the vehicle covers), but I don't know that it's a deal breaker since portable DVD players are so inexpensive these days. I like the idea of the DVD players in the headrests on the Volvo combined with the wireless headphones that come with the package. The Volvo also has an ingenious rigid flap that flips up in the back of the cargo area that provides the perfect place to fit paper grocery bags between the rigid flap and the tailgate. Such a simple feature that other manufactures should definitely consider copying at least as an option for families tired of grocery bags falling all over the back cargo area of their vehicle on the way home from the store.

We also looked at the offerings from Lexus, Infinity, Nissan, Acura and Cadillac with nothing piquing our interest. Most were either too huge with V8s getting horrible gas mileage or too small to accomodate our space requirements when traveling.

So what were you guys checking out at the show? Were there any vehicles you were surprised you liked? Any cool features you wish you had in your car right now, or that you might look for in a future purchase?
 

mndsm

I'M OFFENDED!
1- I'm in love with the CTS-V wagon. Still.

2- I am actually mildly impressed with the Chevy Sonic. The RS one that's going to be out for 2013 has me mildly interested.

3- You can feel the Chrysler all up in the Fiat 500 Abarth. I was briefly considering one as a replacement to the MINI, however jam on the shifter a decent bit and the whole damn dashboard moves. Do not want.

4-Ford is really good at flake paint. I spent the better part of 10min checking out the yellow Fiesta they had due to the ridiculous flake. Honarable mentions go to the aforementioned CTS-V and Chevy Sonic (that orange man.... that orange).

5- Hyundai Equus (or however it's spelled) is BEGGING for some VIP treatment. A nice drop and some fat rims would sweeten that package a TON. I already like it as it.

6- I finally figured out why the hell Nissan's f/s van confuses me so. The hood is long as HELL. Like full size SUV long. Not used to vans like that.

7- I kinda like the Toyota iQ. It's so ridiculously small it's amusing, without being nearly as dumb as a Smart Car. However I find the package totally impractical for MN, as we are not a short-distance ultra urban environment. I have to drive further than I'd like to in an iQ to get to nearly anything. Around the town runabout is perfect.

8- I want a Dodge ram 3500 with the super-duper extra quad cab and a long bed. With duallies. And a Cummins. As an aside- Chrysler as a whole is doing the "Imported from Detroit" thing, which is fine and somewhat clever. Would it not make more sense for Dodge to use a Detroit Diesel as opposed to the Cummins?

9- Scions' chap stick giveaway was as unexpected as it was welcome.

10- The Cadillac ATS is a decent looking car, but I can't get over that it looks like it's based on the Cruze platform.

11- The Cruze still sucks.

12- Buick Regal GS? Not bad Buick, not bad.

13- I can almost deal with the MINI Countryman now that I know that the stupid all the way back center console is an option. Also- bonus points for color matching the center panels of the doors to the outside of the car.

14- Kia coulda got more tire under that gray Spectra. They used actual Volks though, which is nice.
 

FunK73

New Member
8- I want a Dodge ram 3500 with the super-duper extra quad cab and a long bed. With duallies. And a Cummins. As an aside- Chrysler as a whole is doing the "Imported from Detroit" thing, which is fine and somewhat clever. Would it not make more sense for Dodge to use a Detroit Diesel as opposed to the Cummins?

12- Buick Regal GS? Not bad Buick, not bad.
8- I want a Dodge ram 3500 with the super-duper extra quad cab and a long bed. With duallies. And a Cummins. As an aside- Chrysler as a whole is doing the "Imported from Detroit" thing, which is fine and somewhat clever since they are all made in Mexico. Would it not make more sense for Dodge to use a Detroit Diesel as opposed to the Cummins?

12- Buick Regal GS? Not bad Vauxhall, not bad.

There I fixed it for you lol.

Also Meh about the show. LFA is cool to see in person though. Sadly the setting everything up part of the show was actually more fun than the going.
 

YSOSLO

is the word, beotch
Tom, the flake on the black/charcoal CTS-V was killer! Even Jess commented about how crazy-sparkly it was. LOVED the outlined taillights on the Cobra. Audi anything-with-an-S looked gorgeous. I was pretty disappointed there weren't more prototypes.

Also, it bugs me that so many of the manufacturers don't provide actual brochures for those of us genuinely interested in a particular vehicle. I mean I get that they might blow through several thousand brochures during the week, but if someone is willing to carry on a conversation or genuinely inquire about a possibly purchasing a vehicle it would be great not to have to wait around 4-6 weeks for a brochure in the mail when the website it waiting at home for me. /rant

I also think it would be cool to have the show setup by vehicle type 1 year, just to see how the public felt about it. So those of us in the market for an SUV didn't have to wander all over the entire floor past 76 other manufacturer's sports cars, minivans and trucks, just to see a dozen vehicles one might be shopping for. Granted, there are TONS of people that go to the Auto Show just to see what's new out there, but I think it would encourage manufacturers to step up their game knowing that, for example, their Ford Fiesta and Mazda2 will be parked 10' away from a Mini Cooper, a Smart car and a Fiat 500. It would be all about standing out from the competition rather than herding together by Make.
 

mndsm

I'M OFFENDED!
Problem is, it's easier to compete when you have all your soldiers in one line as opposed to spread across the field of battle. Requires less staff that way too. Think of all the people they'd need to have on if they did A segment, B segment, SUV, Truck, Van, Sports... it'd be endless. Plus 90% of the world still shops by manufacturer and not by type. IE- I don't think I even wandered past the Honda booth.
 

dmention7

Hater
Unfortunately, auto shows are not about helping the consumer compare and contrast cars, so much as providing a week-long 3D commercial for auto makers. Nissan doesn't want you stacking up their SUV against Ford's, they want to show you how awesome their SUV is and tell you why you should buy it.
 

YSOSLO

is the word, beotch
You guys bring up good points, but Tom's point about not seeing any Hondas is a great reason for mixing the Makes, so customer's that only buy one brand or Domestic versus Imports get to see how their traditional vehicles stack up against others. While Nissan mightnot want you to compare their vehicle to a competitor in all cases, I would propose that it might be the case that just as many people might end up sitting down in a Maxima if it was parked next to an Accord, while they normally might night wander all the way back to the Nissan booth in the back corner after seeing the Hondas right in the middle of everything. The biggest obstacle would be the staffing, as Tom mentioned. I've heard most car salespeople try to avoid the Auto Show like the plague, because it rarely nets you any Sales, while sitting at the dealership waiting for someone to wander onto the lot will result in a better sales week.

Anybody remember what manufacturers used to be at the Auto Show that aren't anymore? I don't remember seeing Lotus there, and obviously Saturn is gone. Any others?
 
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